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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Dec 27, 2008 14:09:56 GMT -6
Fuck that! I trusted him, he'll be released from retainer. If you think I'm going to give you your money back, you got another thing coming, buddy!! [sound]SQUEALING PIG[/sound] How's DAT!!??!!??
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 27, 2008 19:10:33 GMT -6
If I can't get my money back let's proceed, towels for everyone!
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 27, 2008 19:41:27 GMT -6
A thought! If Superclubs marketed and had towels like this in every room with a reasonable price point, the laundry costs (energy, labor soaps etc..) would be history. Guests would be taking them home. They could stock them in the gift shop too. Damn, I'm getting ummm interested just linking the picture.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 27, 2008 20:07:30 GMT -6
As we run from towels to eggs. Gordon since you happen to be present when it stated did anyone say why their board of health shut down the eggs like that? Had anyone been sick that you heard of? Many places that serve brunch have the eggs like that. I wonder if it was country, parish, or just local thing? We do a large breakfast with our Lions Club at the 2 day hot air ballon days here and we keep the scambled eggs like and the board of health has never had a problem with us during their inspection. Not that I care but if they looked at Charlie's and the others omelet stations they keep using the same dish to break the eggs in. After a while that is not good. Joe Nothing specific that I heard of, one day they were there, the next they were gone, and the reason given was "health reasons", not another word. I never had a health problem with them, obviously Colleen did. If they were properly cooked up that morning FROM FRESH EGGS, I dont see how there could have been an issue. If they were continually serving up leftovers OR were using old eggs or (more likely) a prepared egg mixture that had been improperly stored, I can see where the health issue would arise. In reality, is anyone really prepared to take a tour of the kitchen facilities?
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 27, 2008 22:06:50 GMT -6
In reality, is anyone really prepared to take a tour of the kitchen facilities? No, but that includes just about any commercial kitchen, here or abroad. I prefer the grill during the day as the main staple of survival (that and Redstripe)
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 28, 2008 1:48:29 GMT -6
In reality, is anyone really prepared to take a tour of the kitchen facilities? No, but that includes just about any commercial kitchen, here or abroad. I prefer the grill during the day as the main staple of survival (that and Redstripe) I agree no way would I want tour any commercial kitchen. Most likely I would never eat out again. Our son-in-law is in the HVAC business and just did a complete system replacement at our favorite restaurant in town. Since it is located in an older house the system runs in the attic. He just told us "don't ever eat there again, you wouldn't believe what I saw up there". We haven't been back yet. Gary, I find one thing harder and harder to do every year at Hedo and that is eat at the grill. It must have to do with age and how much grease you can take in during a day. Joe
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 28, 2008 6:00:28 GMT -6
In reality, is anyone really prepared to take a tour of the kitchen facilities? No, but that includes just about any commercial kitchen, here or abroad. I prefer the grill during the day as the main staple of survival (that and Redstripe) Yeahmon
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 28, 2008 6:06:01 GMT -6
No, but that includes just about any commercial kitchen, here or abroad. I prefer the grill during the day as the main staple of survival (that and Redstripe) I agree no way would I want tour any commercial kitchen. Most likely I would never eat out again. Our son-in-law is in the HVAC business and just did a complete system replacement at our favorite restaurant in town. Since it is located in an older house the system runs in the attic. He just told us "don't ever eat there again, you wouldn't believe what I saw up there". We haven't been back yet. Gary, I find one thing harder and harder to do every year at Hedo and that is eat at the grill. It must have to do with age and how much grease you can take in during a day.Joe I actually noticed a decrease in the grease at the grill this year, BUT that was after I noticed a big decline in the quality of the burgers that were being served up there. One of those and I swore them off for the rest of the trip. Everything else however was relatively grease free, if fact the grilled cheese was a bit on the dry side, with very little butter being use, but there was an ample supply of those wonderful Jamaican patties, and that was my grill staple for the year. That and ease up on the fries and it was pretty grease free.
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 28, 2008 7:53:50 GMT -6
Joe, I have a friend who is a retired New York Telephone worker who spent his career in Manhattan building basements which are the "backroom" of thousands of restaurants. Since he loves to have fun, laugh and tease, his favorite stories are descriptions of what he had seen through the years in the back of restaurants. Mostly people laugh at his animated wild stories but I sit there turning green, that adds to the show and then his wife grosses out and yells at him to "shut-up." It's all funny. Then we proceed with dinner.......(true) I was in the H2 main dinning room bathroom one trip washing my hands and a female kitchen worker was in there as well. Her behavior was curious to me. (besides being a woman in the men's room) Whatever she had to touch in the bathroom was done with her elbows. I thought I was the only crazy one because I tend to do stuff like that too.
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Post by edie2u on Dec 28, 2008 8:45:24 GMT -6
If they were properly cooked up that morning FROM FRESH EGGS, I dont see how there could have been an issue. If they were continually serving up leftovers OR were using old eggs or (more likely) a prepared egg mixture that had been improperly stored, I can see where the health issue would arise. Gordon, you are so right about the "old" eggs, also eggs that are left unrefrigerated for a periods of time can grow bacteria. They says as little as two hours. (We actually did an experiment with eggs that were left unrefrigerated vs refrigerated eggs in college). When these eggs are improperly cooked that ads even more danger of becoming ill. We won't even talk about what unsanitary conditions can do. <gag> Being curious I googled this topic and this is what I found: FROM CHICKEN TO HUMAN There are some diseases that people can get from chicken or chicken products like eggs. People need to be careful with eggs and other chicken products because they might have a disease like Salmonella. When the egg comes out of the hen it needs to be washed quickly and thoroughly to get ride of any waste matter from the mother. Just like meat, eggs should be cooked completely to kill any germs that might infect the person that eats it. In addition to disease that people get from chicken as food, some diseases such as avian flu can spread to humans from live chicken. Source Here are some diseases you should really watch out for : SALMONELLOSIS ENTERITIS - FOOD POISONING LISTERIA STAPHYLOCOCCUS AUREUS AVIAN FLU SALMONELLOSIS Salmonella is probably the most common disease you can get from eating eggs. Chicken eggs become infected before the shell is created during incubation. The bacteria was in hen's body! This disease is called by bacteria called Salmonella enteritis which can be find inside raw eggs. The problem is that eggs look fine, you really can't tell that it is infected. Disease is spread by eating eggs that have this bacteria. If you ate an infected egg you will get really sick in a day or two. This means diarrhea, vomiting, and high temperature. This can get so bad that people can dehydrate and have to go to hospital. It's even worse in kids. Salmonella can be treated with antibiotic and lots of liquids. According to CDC, 1 in 50 people in the USA eat eggs that have salmonella in them! You may think that eating eggs is dangerous but that is really not true. If you handle eggs appropriately, you will be safe. [url=http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/salmonellosis_g.htm#What%20sort%20of%20germ%20is%20Salmonella ]Source[/url] CDC's SALMONELLOSIS PAGE Listeria monocytogenes Have you checked the date on your eggs or chicken. When you buy food in the store make sure to check the date on the container. Listeria monocytogenes is a microorganism that can cause serious food poisoning. Most often people get infected when they eat products whose date to use is passes. It can also grow quickly when the food is not refrigerated. Most of the time heat kills this microorganism, so it is important to cook eggs and chicken fully. CAMPYLOBACTER ENTERITIS This is a fancy name for something quite common - food poisoning. This type of food poisoning is caused by bacteria called Campylobacter jejuni. You can get this from eating undercooked chicken meat. This is why it is important to always cook chicken completely. If you get infected, you will probably suffer cramps, diarrhea for at least a week. There is no medicine for this disease. Instead you should drink a lot of fluids so you do not dehydrate and suffer until it is gone. Always check your chicken before you bite into it. Heat kills these bacteria, so the best way to prevent it is to make sure you cooked your chicken. Staphylococcus aureus This bacteria can cause disease in human. Infected people can have high temperature and vomiting. Usually disease spreads by hands. One of the greatest sources of these bacteria are food, like chicken, that is not refrigerated. Also, food that is made with hands and uncooked, like chicken salad can easily infect people. In addition to those diseases there are several other diseases that you can get by eating raw eggs or undercooked chicken. In addition, the avian flu has recently spread around the world. This is a disease that is spread by a virus from chicken and other poultry to humans. Initially, it affected only people who were in contact with chicken, but more and more the disease is spreading to those not in direct contact. Avian flu could be for chicken what mad cow disease is for cows and beef industry. ================================================================================ An aside: Until just a few years ago eggs were routinely kept on the side board for days. (I still on occasion see people who do not refrigerate their eggs.) Did people get sick more often from the eggs back then?
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Post by Christinko on Dec 28, 2008 10:33:41 GMT -6
I guess I shouldn't be eating the raw cookie dough I love to make....yikes! I've been lucky for a long time.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 28, 2008 10:56:50 GMT -6
Oh yeah, I love raw cookie dough.
Joe
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 28, 2008 11:00:47 GMT -6
Hey, Rocky Balboa drank glasses of raw eggs in Rocky I... look at how he turned out, lesson learned.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 28, 2008 11:03:43 GMT -6
Hey, Rocky Balboa drank glasses of raw eggs in Rocky I... look at how he turned out, lesson learned. Broke and punchy ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Joe
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 28, 2008 11:08:54 GMT -6
... and with a speech impediment
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 28, 2008 11:11:10 GMT -6
............and a stupid look on his face
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Post by Chicago Jake on Dec 28, 2008 11:11:38 GMT -6
And two multi-million dollar film franchises.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 28, 2008 11:15:04 GMT -6
That was Sylvester Stallon, not Rocky Balboa
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 28, 2008 11:17:10 GMT -6
What about Rambo?
Joe
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 28, 2008 11:19:21 GMT -6
I dont recall Rambo drinking a glass of raw eggs, he had the entire jungle working against him
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Post by Irish Stu on Dec 28, 2008 11:42:58 GMT -6
Whatever she had to touch in the bathroom was done with her elbows. I thought I was the only crazy one because I tend to do stuff like that tooYou can include me in that too. Simon
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Post by Christinko on Dec 28, 2008 12:23:49 GMT -6
Hey, when I'm in a bathroom all I touch is myself....I know where that's been.
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Post by nolaflacav on Dec 28, 2008 13:25:44 GMT -6
Hey, when I'm in a bathroom all I touch is myself....I know where that's been. Only a women could make such a comment. We all know men have zero sense of direction. Hence we have not a clue where we are going and I assume the vast majority of us have no idea where we have been either.
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 28, 2008 14:10:50 GMT -6
I'm not so sure Nola -- I have reasonable sense of direction and only men can understand maps where an inch equals a mile.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 28, 2008 15:58:15 GMT -6
I have to agree with Gary, with the added comment, at least I know where my hands have been... YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, but only I know.
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Post by edie2u on Dec 28, 2008 19:46:55 GMT -6
I have to agree with Gary, with the added comment, at least I know where my hands have been... YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, but only I know. Note to self...when I meet Gordon put on rubber gloves prior to shaking hands! ;D My sister got salmonella when I was a kid and she was very ill. I quit eating raw cookie dough (or anything with raw eggs in it many years ago. Remember when Orange Julius (for those of you that have heard of them) used to put a raw egg in their drinks... yuch!
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Post by Tex on Dec 28, 2008 20:10:46 GMT -6
A tip on eggs: If you never refrigerate them (straight from the chicken's ass), they will keep for quite a while. Once you refrigerate them, you should keep them refrigerated.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 28, 2008 20:14:57 GMT -6
Many restaurants use raw eggs in the Caesar salad dressing. So there is just more out the besides cookie dough that can get to you.
Joe
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Post by edie2u on Dec 29, 2008 7:10:50 GMT -6
Many restaurants use raw eggs in the Caesar salad dressing. So there is just more out the besides cookie dough that can get to you. Joe I am not sure how many restaurants still do this. Places like the Chart House quit adding the raw eggs due to the risk of food borne pathogens. (Back in the good old days when they made the salad at your table, I use to ask them not to put the egg in.)
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 29, 2008 7:20:59 GMT -6
There was a big issue in New Jersey about minimum cook times restaurants had for eggs a few years ago because dinners made most of their breakfast profit from the lightly cooked eggs.
It became law to fully cook them but I think the ruling was over easy later on.
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