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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 23, 2008 17:23:55 GMT -6
Please don't use the word "Karma" around here. Ever.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 23, 2008 17:26:00 GMT -6
I'm insulted and troubled by your belittling of my pleasure. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! May I request that you reconsider the tone of your posts as a courtesy? Ibid.
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Post by nolaflacav on Dec 23, 2008 18:46:02 GMT -6
Today at 6:02pm, Christinko wrote: They are my carpeting (I hate the cold slippery tile).
OK I have absolutely no first hand knowledge but I always assumed that the carpet (if any) matched the drapes. Can anyone dispel this towel as carpeting myth so I can continue on with my fantasy? Please.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 23, 2008 19:32:26 GMT -6
May I request that you reconsider the tone of your posts as a courtesy? NO.I think it's totally ridiculous for grown people to cry over towels. Now no beer, no Jack Daniels, even no banana's are worth complaining about but towels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If they are only going to give you one bring an extra from home. What's the big deal. We learned after the first year of a towel shortage to bring our own. They don't take up that much room in you luggage. Joe Edited to add: Chris things ch-ch-change, and that goes for towels at Hedo. Have you stopped flying because the airline don't feed you or no longer give you a free movie? Have you asked for a major e-mail campaign against them because of that? Hey if it is costing them money because towel are lost or stolen, then they have a right to try to control that issue. I am sure that you would do the same if your business was losing operating materials at a steady pace. Think about the big picture.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 23, 2008 19:33:38 GMT -6
Sorry guys but you are all a bunch of cry babies over fucking towels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get a life people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe I say we designate Joe to take up this worthy cause on behalf of all of us. I really feel that Karma dictates that he needs to champion this task for us. You think? Leave it to me and you would have to bring your own towel. On second thought I would have the save BB used towels and give them to you when you got there.!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 23, 2008 19:34:21 GMT -6
While I understand Chris's explanation the towels are hardly carpeting. To qualify as "carpeting" for the hospitality/restaurant industry important details need to be addressed. First consider advanced ANSO fiber with at a weight of 36oz. Also wear-ability, the proper synthetic commercial padding and backing should be considered to guard against unraveling and damage resistance.
Come on guys!
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Post by DT on Dec 23, 2008 20:17:47 GMT -6
This would be a non- issue for me. Because I have never had a towel problem at Hedo.
psssst..... I like lots of towels too.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 23, 2008 21:23:35 GMT -6
OK I have absolutely no first hand knowledge but I always assumed that the carpet (if any) matched the drapes. Can anyone dispel this towel as carpeting myth so I can continue on with my fantasy? Please. Stinko's carpeting has A LOT more wear and tear. And trust me, it doesn't smell the same as the drapes.
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Post by towelmeister on Dec 23, 2008 21:26:40 GMT -6
I'm surprised to see that no one here has thought of the most likely reason for this policy. Given the quality and number of towels bought, I doubt they pay more than US$2 per towel. The REAL cost is in laundering, drying, folding and distributing the towels. I don't know that Jamaica has any electricity producing feature, they probably power with imported diesel. Power in the islands is VERY expensive. And through our ignorance of this expense, we think nothing of using 4-5 towels a day. I'm sure they have industrial size washers, but at home 4-5 towels is a whole load, which is costly even here in the US. Chris, you seem to be alone on this - some agree for convenience sake, but you are the only one advocating for 4-5 towels a day, or every few days. Can I suggest bringing a pair of slippers to wear in the room? A pareo to walk around in and sit on? And maybe a big ole towel, of your own design and personalized to cover your lounge??? Or if decadence is really your thing, and towel availability defines your decadence, go to the Ritz. Like Dr.Idiot says, they always give as many towels as you want. The bottom line on your AMEX statement might shock, though.
Maybe they should issue a towel a day at check-in (i.e, staying 7days? get 7 towels, etc) and say take them or leave them but don't ask for more. But if your towel gets wet, you can trade it in for a new one. If you want more, pay for more (maybe US$5, they like profit on any little thing). Then you can have enough, and if you want to indulge in decadance, pay for it. Most people won't take their towels home (they really do suck), so there would always be enough towels for everyone to have one per day (or even two? could work). But people might be more responsible, and hang their barely used towel to dry to use tomorrow, or recycle, using Monday's beach towel as Tuesday's bath mat, etc., progressively demoting towels as the fresh towels come into use. I do that at home - Monday's shower towel is Tuesday's shower towel and Wednesday too. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, it's what I step on when I step out of the shower, Sunday is laundry day and they're all in the bin. Bang. Two towels a week (I have short hair). This is wholly due to the cost of laundering and drying them, paired with the fact that it works just fine. After all, I'm clean when I get out of the shower.
They have the little signs about not ch-ch-changing the bedding and many of us proudly ask that it not be changed each day and feel all warm&cozy and environmentally friendly, then (barely)use way more towels than we actually need. Newsflash to the self-entitled baby-boomers amongst us -- take just a minute to think not about what you WANT, but what you really need. The decadence of excess is over. Deal with it.
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Post by DT on Dec 23, 2008 21:48:04 GMT -6
In general that's what I do.
psssst..... When vacationing it's a different ballgame. I think about what I WANT.
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Post by Christinko on Dec 23, 2008 22:01:54 GMT -6
I'd stay home if I worried about being environmentally friendly to that extent on vacation.
And I've always thought the entire ambience of Hedonism II is based on the decadence of excess. Drinking....eating.....sun....sex.....etc.
I'd be happy to receive 7 towels all at once for my 7-day trip if I could exchange any of them at any time. In fact, I like that idea. That's the first suggestion I've heard that seems workable to me. Thank you!
FYI--I do reuse my towels at Hedo all the time. And I also don't have the sheets changed every day either.
PS: Joe--If my crying about towels seems stupid to you, think how your complaints about no bananas, no Jack, no beer, no loungers, etc. sounds to me since I don't need any of those things on my Hedo trips. I wouldn't directly insult your needs though. I'm confused why you feel compelled to repeatedly insult mine.
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Post by Christinko on Dec 23, 2008 22:03:49 GMT -6
OK I have absolutely no first hand knowledge but I always assumed that the carpet (if any) matched the drapes. Can anyone dispel this towel as carpeting myth so I can continue on with my fantasy? Please. Stinko's carpeting has A LOT more wear and tear. And trust me, it doesn't smell the same as the drapes. Hello? Thus my moniker! Duh!
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Post by Christinko on Dec 23, 2008 22:05:20 GMT -6
Today at 6:02pm, Christinko wrote: They are my carpeting (I hate the cold slippery tile). OK I have absolutely no first hand knowledge but I always assumed that the carpet (if any) matched the drapes. Can anyone dispel this towel as carpeting myth so I can continue on with my fantasy? Please. If you like to fantacize about gray hair, have at it! [insert: grin] But, yes, they match!
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 23, 2008 23:39:40 GMT -6
To me there's no difference between any of the expected basic indulgences at Hedo and certainly a towel as needed or a quality whiskey is hardly special treatment. My goodness, you need a towel(s) and since the main thrust of Super-Clubs is being wild for a week, I expect a JD or whatever staple drink be available. Damn it! If only Super-Clubs had to operate under the same guidelines as my tiny business, Hedo would be a first class operation service wise (I mean it)
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 24, 2008 0:01:55 GMT -6
PS: Joe--If my crying about towels seems stupid to you, think how your complaints about no bananas, no Jack, no beer, no loungers, etc. sounds to me since I don't need any of those things on my Hedo trips. I wouldn't directly insult your needs though. I'm confused why you feel compelled to repeatedly insult mine. I how did insult you? You had the privilege of stating your opinion on this towel matter. It seems that as long as you can state your opinion without any rebuttal from anyone you are happy but when someone fires back your feelings get hurt and it wasn't directly at you it was at everyone who is bitching about this. If you will reread all my post I never picked you out individually, I said that. I don't see your name mentioned in there at all. Look at any way you want, but as I stated before CRYINGover how many towels you get at the beach/pool is ridiculous. By the way I wasn't bitching about the beer, Jack, or banana's, they had plenty of all three. Joe
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 24, 2008 0:02:55 GMT -6
Newsflash to the self-entitled baby-boomers amongst us -- take just a minute to think not about what you WANT, but what you really need. The decadence of excess is over. Deal with it. Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 24, 2008 6:43:34 GMT -6
All I can say is... if Im only allowed ONE towel per day, then they better drop the "ALL INCLUSIVE" moniker before they get a false advertising lawsuit.
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Post by edie2u on Dec 24, 2008 7:00:04 GMT -6
Newsflash to the self-entitled baby-boomers amongst us -- take just a minute to think not about what you WANT, but what you really need. The decadence of excess is over. Deal with it. If using a couple is towels is sooo decadent and "we need to deal with it" I am dreading the mundane. I have to say that I think for $250-$300 a night, towels should be given with a smile. Personally I would rather have clean towels than free alcohol....I know, I know, that's blasphemy! I how did insult you? You had the privilege of stating your opinion on this towel matter. It seems that as long as you can state your opinion without any rebuttal from anyone you are happy but when someone fires back your feelings get hurt and it wasn't directly at you it was at everyone who is bitching about this. If you will reread all my post I never picked you out individually, I said that. I don't see your name mentioned in there at all. Look at any way you want, but as I stated before CRYINGover how many towels you get at the beach/pool is ridiculous. Joe, I have to say that thought your post was directed at Chris and I thought it seemed harsh.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 24, 2008 7:03:52 GMT -6
If money is truly the issue then charging for drinks would be much more lucrative, maybe that towel card SHOULD get you that one free drink per day too.
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Post by edie2u on Dec 24, 2008 7:15:54 GMT -6
If money is truly the issue then charging for drinks would be much more lucrative, maybe that towel card SHOULD get you that one free drink per day too. LOL, I think your right, Gordon.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 24, 2008 8:02:44 GMT -6
If Superclubs IS following the airline model of nickel and diming to make money, it would be best to follow Chris' advice and email Mr Levee to nip this right now, rather than waiting to see if we are on the slippery slope to the total abandonment of the "all-inclusive" concept.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 24, 2008 10:19:39 GMT -6
Newsflash to the self-entitled baby-boomers amongst us -- take just a minute to think not about what you WANT, but what you really need. The decadence of excess is over. Deal with it. If using a couple is towels is sooo decadent and "we need to deal with it" I am dreading the mundane. I have to say that I think for $250-$300 a night, towels should be given with a smile. Personally I would rather have clean towels than free alcohol....I know, I know, that's blasphemy! I how did insult you? You had the privilege of stating your opinion on this towel matter. It seems that as long as you can state your opinion without any rebuttal from anyone you are happy but when someone fires back your feelings get hurt and it wasn't directly at you it was at everyone who is bitching about this. If you will reread all my post I never picked you out individually, I said that. I don't see your name mentioned in there at all. Look at any way you want, but as I stated before CRYINGover how many towels you get at the beach/pool is ridiculous. Joe, I have to say that thought your post was directed at Chris and I thought it seemed harsh. Your thought was wrong and it was my opinon. Joe.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 24, 2008 10:21:50 GMT -6
All I can say is... if Im only allowed ONE towel per day, then they better drop the "ALL INCLUSIVE" moniker before they get a false advertising lawsuit. Give me a break Gordon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe, Edited to add Gordon. You better also add to the suit, no free slippers, no free bath robe, no free sandals for the beach or pool shoes. Could a whole bunch more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If are meaning all inclusive to be all inclusive they better have everything.
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Post by New Mama on Dec 24, 2008 10:23:11 GMT -6
For those of you that don't read Denny's much anymore...my email to Kevin Levee.....
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 24, 2008 10:50:32 GMT -6
The worest part is not one of you have been there yet since they started the program and you are all crying as if you have been put out by it. Try it first and see what happens. If it's bad then complain. This is like complaing to your waiter that your dinner sucks and they haven't even servered you yet.
When someonegoes and finds out that it was a problem, or an inconvince then I'll listen . Tell then you have really nothing to complain about.
And that is the answer I would give you if I was Kevin Levee.
Joe
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Post by edie2u on Dec 24, 2008 10:55:33 GMT -6
Great email, Anita. Keep us posted. Thanks...
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Post by bigdog8088 on Dec 24, 2008 11:03:06 GMT -6
I've been to other Resorts that have a towel Policy..It sucked...Taking time to turn in your old towel for a clean one. Who's going to drag a soaked towel to the dive shack as a trade in.
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Post by New Mama on Dec 24, 2008 11:11:56 GMT -6
The worest part is not one of you have been there yet since they started the program and you are all crying as if you have been put out by it. Try it first and see what happens. If it's bad then complain. This is like complaing to your waiter that your dinner sucks and they haven't even servered you yet. When someonegoes and finds out that it was a problem, or an inconvince then I'll listen . Tell then you have really nothing to complain about. And that is the answer I would give you if I was Kevin Levee. Joe HA This from the man crying the loudest when McCain wasn't even President yet. Hedo has long history on not doing well with 'programs'. Hell they can't keep points straight on the games, or issuing invitations to the repeaters party, or playing scheduled games when planned, or issuing sheets for Toga, or crediting loyalty points when due. They can't keep towels available let alone regulate them as announced. The worries from some are not without basis. We have all witnessed Hedo's inefficiencies over the years. BTW, my email and thoughts are more questions than complaints. Try not to generalize so much Joe. BTW2, try spell check occasionally. I realize none of us are without errors in spelling and grammar on this board but you often take the cake Joe.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 24, 2008 11:48:10 GMT -6
The worest part is not one of you have been there yet since they started the program and you are all crying as if you have been put out by it. Try it first and see what happens. If it's bad then complain. This is like complaing to your waiter that your dinner sucks and they haven't even servered you yet. When someonegoes and finds out that it was a problem, or an inconvince then I'll listen . Tell then you have really nothing to complain about. And that is the answer I would give you if I was Kevin Levee. Joe HA This from the man crying the loudest when McCain wasn't even President yet. Hedo has long history on not doing well with 'programs'. Hell they can't keep points straight on the games, or issuing invitations to the repeaters party, or playing scheduled games when planned, or issuing sheets for Toga, or crediting loyalty points when due. They can't keep towels available let alone regulate them as announced. The worries from some are not without basis. We have all witnessed Hedo's inefficiencies over the years. BTW, my email and thoughts are more questions than complaints. Try not to generalize so much Joe. BTW2, try spell check occasionally. I realize none of us are without errors in spelling and grammar on this board but you often take the cake Joe. And what WTF does John McCain have to do with towels at Hedo? Big difference between who is going to be President of the USA and if I have or don't have a towel at Hedo to wrap my ass in. But it looks like the towel is more important to you. If Hedo has so many inefficiencies and keeps screwing up on so many simple items as you mentioned, why do you keep going back 39 times? Usually after 1 or 2 trips if people notice so many mistakes and dislikes they don't return, but 39. What's the matter, are you a slow learner? Do you have nothing better to do than worry about towels at Hedo? If you need an extra what's wrong with bringing one from home? Also my deepest apologies that I don't meet up to your expediencies on spelling and grammar. Hopefully I have not offended you over sensitive eyes, and I will make sure to take more precautions in the future to meet with your strict demands your Majesty. Joe PS. I have notice that those on this board and Denny's board that complain and bitch about Hedo always get rather upset when someone defends the resort or thinks they are doing the right thing. Why? No one yet will answer my question here or over there that if you dislike so many things about the resort why keep going back?
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Post by Christinko on Dec 24, 2008 11:50:47 GMT -6
Joe, towels from home DO take up valuable room in my luggage and then I'm stuck with the same stinky towel(s) all week.
I also shouldn't have to bring my own towels on a trip to Hedo (IMO). I DID bring my own towel this November and it pissed me off that I felt obliged to. Thankfully, towels were plentiful daily though.
Joe--you stooped to name-calling: you called us "Cry Babies." You also insulted and belittled our opinions rather than just differing with them.
I do not insult your opinions when I differ with them. I give my side and do not name call or belittle you for feeling as you do.
You talk of items that matter to you such as JD and beer, etc. They matter as much to me as towels do to you. I don't see the point in insulting you and calling you names, though, because you have different needs.
I realize you did not use my name specifically and were just as easily talking to the many others who do not like this new towel card program.
That "general" insult has no bearing...you insulted us all, and I'm part of that group. I'm not standing up for the group because I don't represent them. Maybe the others don't care that you insulted them.
I realize that some of the people on this board have no concerns with being insulted or throwing out insults, however hurtful and mean-hearted. I'm not always[/i] one of them.
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