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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 3, 2012 0:42:38 GMT -6
I'm sick and tired of Thunderbird. It is just too damn non-intuitive.
I used to love Eudora. Everything just felt right. But since it went away (for all practical purposes), I've been an orphan. I tried to love Thunderbird, but it just ain't happening.
Any suggestions? Do you have an email client that you love and want to recommend? Thanks!.....Jake
PS - no web-mails, please. I like my email to sit on my hard drive, as God intended!
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Jan 3, 2012 6:00:30 GMT -6
I'm sick and tired of Thunderbird. It is just too damn non-intuitive. I used to love Eudora. Everything just felt right. But since it went away (for all practical purposes), I've been an orphan. I tried to love Thunderbird, but it just ain't happening. Any suggestions? Do you have an email client that you love and want to recommend? Thanks!.....Jake
PS - no web-mails, please. I like my email to sit on my hard drive, as God intended!Amen to that! Jake, I hear you and feel you pain on the loss of Eudora. I tried T-Bird, and only made it for a month. Regrettably, I then went over to the dark side and have been using [shudder]Outlook[/shudder] ever since. I await hearing what alternatives come from this thread. Until something brilliant is shown to me, I remain in email client purgatory. Edited: A table in Wiki of email clients shows that there are quite a few out there, but not having heard of a lot of them, I question whether they are broadly used, and hence if they are any good. |
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 3, 2012 10:04:40 GMT -6
Wow, quite a list. It looks like it hasn't been updated since January 2009. That tells me that free-standing email clients are yesterday's flavor. I suspect webmail (shudder) is taking over the world.
I suppose in this era of constant connections and vast, free cloud storage, webmail isn't quite so onerous as it once was. But I'm still going to resist until it is futile.
I was thinking of trying Outlook Express or maybe Windows Live Mail (if there is any difference). Anyone have experience with those?
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Jan 3, 2012 10:27:26 GMT -6
I continue to use Outlook but I also have Thunderbird installed for access to a specific email account set up for use on the ham radio site I moderate. I need more features than Outlook Express has, so I use the full Outlook.
I think it works well and has a lot of nifty features, but every virus seems written to exploit Outlook so one needs to be on their toes, though I have personally never had a problem (knock on wood).
I also used to use Eudora till it went that-a-way.
............Bob
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Jan 3, 2012 11:15:37 GMT -6
I never tried Outlook Express so I am not sure what its missing compared to the full version.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 3, 2012 11:48:34 GMT -6
I forgot about the virus angle. That's an excellent point.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Jan 3, 2012 12:14:51 GMT -6
Virus point is well made, but I think that any well crafted AV software is up to the task. That and with some common sense about opening questionable email attachments, you shouldnt have a problem.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 3, 2012 12:56:09 GMT -6
......I need more features than Outlook Express has, so I use the full Outlook...... Bob - what exactly is Outlook Express missing that you get with Outlook? I have both available, so I'd use Outlook if it gave me something above and beyond OE that I need........Jake |
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Post by Irish Stu on Jan 3, 2012 13:25:07 GMT -6
I've been using Outlook for the past year. I love it.
Can't stand any kind of webmail. However much effort may go into making it look and feel like a 'real' email client there is something just not right about it and the experience is not a good one.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Jan 3, 2012 13:37:31 GMT -6
Jake, I *believe* that the Express version is no longer distributed, and the last update is for Windows XP-SP3. I have no idea how long it will be supported by Microsoft.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 3, 2012 18:49:49 GMT -6
Okay, I installed Outlook (not express). Kind of a busy interface! Any tips or tricks I should be aware of? Do I really need that ribbon across the top?
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Post by Merlot Joe on Jan 3, 2012 21:12:30 GMT -6
I used to use Outlook Express it worked fine for me. I now use Windows Mail. Does everything I need.
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Post by innit Geezer on Jan 3, 2012 21:16:01 GMT -6
I've been using a Yahoo account for personal e-mail for14 years with no problems. For my business I use a gmail account and I have to admit it sounds a bit unprofessional (to me anyway). But it works and I haven't had any complaints from customers. A web e-mail address seems to become unimportant sometimes given the subject matter. Heck, I once had a proposal written on a cupcake with icing as a on a small construction project. (and yes I did get the job)
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Jan 3, 2012 21:41:45 GMT -6
......I need more features than Outlook Express has, so I use the full Outlook...... Bob - what exactly is Outlook Express missing that you get with Outlook? I have both available, so I'd use Outlook if it gave me something above and beyond OE that I need........Jake Jake I think it was calendar functions and the such . . . I honestly can't remember as it's been a few years since I switched. I just remember wanting to do some things listed in the information that Express didn't support. Now I can't remember exactly what those were. It might have also been the rules that you can set up. I have various folders set up to categorize my incoming email so I can keep everything straight. ............Bob |
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Post by Robin Hood on Jan 4, 2012 1:03:26 GMT -6
I am an Outlook lover, but more than that, I am very much a proponent of webmail for the "average" user. You have no idea how many idiots I get calling me telling me that their computer is hosed and they reinstalled Windows and now can't find their email... with webmail... your mail is ALWAYS safe.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 4, 2012 1:11:24 GMT -6
I can see that for the "average" user. But I hate it!!
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 6, 2012 20:38:48 GMT -6
Okay, I've been using Outlook for a couple days now. So far, I'm liking it. But that raises the question of how to export my mail from Thunderbird and import it into Outlook. Thunderbird has no export function. They apparently believe that once you use it, you'll use it for life!
The web is full of helpful articles on how to do it, though. Unfortunately, they all require Outlook Express as an intermediary! I don't have OE, and I don't think it is even available anymore. My Win7 computer comes with its successor, Windows Live Mail. I have no idea if that will work the same way as a stepping stone, but I tend to doubt it. The quest continues.......
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Jan 6, 2012 22:28:57 GMT -6
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 7, 2012 0:12:32 GMT -6
I'm not sure what that means, but it might be the germ of an idea.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Jan 7, 2012 0:38:33 GMT -6
Alternatively, there are also free downloads to convert from MBOX to PST. Here's one: www.mboxtopst.com/ |
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 7, 2012 1:20:55 GMT -6
That one looks promising. Thanks!
Edit - on closer inspection, that page makes no sense to me at all. Whoever wrote it clearly speaks English as third language. That doesn't mean that the software is no good, but I doubt I'll understand the instructions.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 7, 2012 19:02:13 GMT -6
I found several pages with step-by-step instructions, but each and every one of them had issues (losing attachments, losing status flags, requiring OE which won't run on Win7, etc.).
So I think I'll just start using Outlook full time, and let my Thunderbird client sit there on the hard drive but NOT downloading anything new. It'll be there when I need to read old mail, but it will get less and less relevant. And if for some reason I decide I DON'T like outlook, it is easy to export the mail back to Thunderbird.
Sound like a plan?
Oh yeah - I do have Windows Live Mail on my computer (it replaced OE), and it looks like a "lite" version of Outlook. If anyone wants something free, it looks like a decent program.
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