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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 17, 2010 13:16:49 GMT -6
I just upgraded to Firefox 3.6. Not much new, but there is one annoying "feature" that I've found:
When opening a new tab, it places that tab to the right of the current tab. Formerly, it put it all the way on the right hand side of the tab list.
I tend to keep lots of tabs open, but I rarely remember WHERE each tab is. So when a new one opens, I now have to go hunting for it. Before, I always knew that a new one was over on the right.
Has anyone found any way to return this to the previous (new tabs at the right) behavior? I haven't found a way yet.
Thanks!.......Jake
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Mar 17, 2010 14:50:46 GMT -6
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 17, 2010 15:08:55 GMT -6
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 19, 2010 9:33:09 GMT -6
Another question: Since I upgraded Firefox, I've noticed a "hesitation" in the links. That is, when I hove my cursor over a link, the cursor doesn't ch-ch-change from an arrow to a hand for about a second or so. That is, I can't click the link without a slight delay.
It doesn't sound like much, but it adds up to a lot of annoyance. Has anyone else experienced this? It happened both before and after the tabs ch-ch-change noted above, by the way.
It doesn't happen with Chrome, which I'm using right now, so I'm guessing it is another Firefox issue.
Oh cool! I just noticed, with Chrome, I can expand this text box, even though I'm just using the "Quick Reply" - it actually has a little expansion handle in the lower right corner!
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Mar 20, 2010 4:37:04 GMT -6
I have not noted that hesitation Jake.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Mar 20, 2010 12:09:52 GMT -6
Nor have I.
FWIW, I'm bound to using MSIE at work because that's all our products support. I use both MSIE & Firefox (and occasionally Chrome) from my home computer. Both before and after my upgrade to Firefox 3.6, I haven't noticed the problem described.
Possibly a malware rootkit?
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 20, 2010 12:11:44 GMT -6
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I'll dig around.
By the by, I checked my "audio" computer, which also has FF 3.6, and it isn't having the same issues, either.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 21, 2010 10:08:36 GMT -6
Full virus and malware scans, and FF is still doing the sluggish scrolling thing. Chrome is nice and fast, though, so I'll use that until I figure it out.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Mar 21, 2010 16:03:18 GMT -6
Did you try clearing the browser cache? Tools | Options > Advanced, then push Clear Now.
Also, do you have a JVM installed? If so, try clearing *that* cache as well -- from the Control Panel, launch the Java applet and from the General Tab, go into Temporary Internet Settings.
In both cases, remember to reboot immediately *after* purging the cache.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 21, 2010 22:20:20 GMT -6
Thanks for the tips. I did do a reboot, and that seemed to help FF a lot. If it gets bad again, I'll try your suggestions.......Jake
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Mar 22, 2010 6:23:49 GMT -6
I still question whether FF has a memory leak. At the very least it has become a memory hog of late. Right now, with just this one tab, my FF is using about 127Mb of memory.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Mar 22, 2010 13:09:06 GMT -6
Do you keep the browser open for hours at a time, perhaps even letting your computer run a job overnight with the browser open?
I have noticed something similar to a memory leak problem with not necessarily a whole lot of tabs open -- just keep the browser running long enough and suddenly, Windows will tell you its run out of system resources.
This, however, has been on a machine that's not got the kind of horsepower yours does, though -- single proc, only 2GB RAM.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Mar 22, 2010 14:25:07 GMT -6
Yes, the browser is open most of the day. Shutting FF down then reopening to this page reduces the memory usage down to 52Mb, less than 1/2 of what it was this morning. When I posted the 127Mb earlier, I had visited several of my usual sites then closed those tabs and let it "rest" for about 30 minutes. Obviously, at a minimum, FF does a poor job of releasing memory it has grabbed.
I will let the browser idle for a couple hours and come back and see what its memory usage is then.
Edited: No need to wait 2 hours, after 1:20 and MINIMIZED during that time, FF was up to 78Mb. Now, after the page refresh to bring up the post editing page, it's dropped back to 59Mb. Obviously FF is dong something to grab memory even while idling and minimized.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 23, 2010 9:13:37 GMT -6
I just received a Firefox Update notice (3.6.2) so I installed it right away. We'll see how that goes.......Jake
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 27, 2010 10:05:33 GMT -6
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Mar 27, 2010 11:56:30 GMT -6
Obviously, at a minimum, FF does a poor job of releasing memory it has grabbed. FWIW, this may not necessarily be the fault of the Mozilla developers as much as the greed of Micro$uck. Having worked for software companies that are called "developer partners", I can tell you that this "partnership" is rather limited, to say the least. IOW, they do not fully document their entire API, so many things -- memory clean-up among them, I would imagine -- are only known internally, within their own engineering teams. Also, remember: theoretically, Java is *supposed* to do automatic garbage collection, but memory leaks occur in Java apps, too.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Mar 27, 2010 15:40:23 GMT -6
Good points Beeb. Gates & Co have never been known to be overly generous sharing aspects of their OS's that would make their competitions software run efficiently.
Jake, Red Panda sounds like a great marketing decision for the China market
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