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Post by Christinko on May 7, 2009 21:50:28 GMT -6
SO I get this letter in the mail from a nearby suburb. It's got a "red light violation warning" headline...and I'm thinking, I'm totally busted for prostitution in the wrong zone, but NO!
It's big brother and his cameras watching me to a right turn on red after stopping...as the letter announces: for only 2.8 seconds! A rolling stop they say.
Well, YEAH! As the picture shows. It's nighttime and ZERO other cars are shown in ANY direction and I stopped (yes, glided) for my 2.8 seconds before I turned my legal right hand turn on red.
Sons of bitches.
Thankfully, this was not a ticket during the 30 day grace period the police are using their sneaky cameras. It's only a non-costing warning...whew!
A gal pal tells me that cops and townships LOVE these systems because they pay for themselves within a week or so and then are sheer profit for the city/village/etc.
I just keep thinking slippery slope and big brother. I sure hope there's no "no nose-picking zones" set up or I'm really doomed.
Anybody else run into this shit?
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Post by innit Geezer on May 7, 2009 22:08:30 GMT -6
I received a letter from E-Z Pass giving me a warning because my speed through the toll was to high. It stated that there is only one warning per driver then E-Z Pass privileges will be canceled.
Generally I don't speed and I'm careful not to make a driving mistake because of a speeding ticket I got at the end of last summer. The speed was in "excess" and very costly. I think it was $600 with NY State surcharges payable over 2 years.
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Post by Irish Stu on May 8, 2009 5:05:50 GMT -6
Welcome to my world in the UK Chris, where speed cameras and traffic light cameras are little more than a stealth tax on motorists, with all the proceeds going into the coffers of the local councils and police departments. They are everywhere, but thankfully most Sat Navs know where they are and alert you to them.
Simon
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Post by innit Geezer on May 8, 2009 5:35:12 GMT -6
I was hoping this thread was about getting blown while waiting a red lights and as luck would have it, it's just traffic talk. On that note, has anyone had sex in a moving car?
We would during long open highway trips.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on May 8, 2009 6:11:33 GMT -6
Im not sure the Hedo bus counts Gary ;D
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Post by Tex on May 8, 2009 6:26:30 GMT -6
I got a $75 ticket in the mail for running a red light in Longview, Texas. A picture of my car was enclosed. My insurance guy told me privately that there is a spray that you can get for your tags that is invisible in normal light but under the photographic flash create a reflective glare that renders the plate unreadable. Necessity is the mother of invention.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on May 8, 2009 7:06:45 GMT -6
Mythbusters TV show explored a lot of those "camera fooling" products... none of them worked, user beware.
While Mythbusters "scientific process" can be flawed in their attempts to prove something, in this case, where they are disproving a claim, it should be sufficient to question the reliability of what is being tested. Think of those camera tricking devices as similar to the carburetor that aligns gasoline molecules properly and gives you 100mpg
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Post by wareagle on May 8, 2009 7:27:34 GMT -6
The City of Montgomery has placed cameras at key intersections because we have so many people here who don't seem to know their primary colors and run red lights.
While I was out of town and about this time last year a guy driving a big blue RAM 1500 ran a red light and as my wife was turning left hit her broad side, spinning her around and knocking our Mountaineer into on coming traffic coming from the opposite direction. Thankfully the drivers of the on coming traffic were able to either stop or swerve to miss her as our SUV came to rest facing the other cars. She almost got killed twice. He got out claiming she ran the turn lane light and turned in front of him while he had the green light but cameras and witnesses said different.
In this case, thank God for big brother.
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Post by Irish Stu on May 8, 2009 8:07:27 GMT -6
Im not sure the Hedo bus counts Gary ;D ;D Simon |
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Post by nolaflacav on May 8, 2009 9:11:40 GMT -6
They have arrived in Orlando and they are loved by the man since they generate revenue with little effort.
I read a cute story about them recently in USA Today. It seems a bunch of high school students found a way to game the cameras to their advantage. They were using them to get even with other students that pissed them off.
If they did not like Chris and she was driving a 06 Silver Honda Civic, they would a do a little leg work to find someone who had a similar car. Once they found the car they would then Photoshop and attach a copy of Chris' license plate to the borrowed car. And you guessed it, they would repeatedly run the red light at various hours of the day and night.
I never did read as to how law enforcement was going to resolve this little war of retaliation.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on May 8, 2009 9:16:41 GMT -6
EXCELLENT!! Nothing like a little civil disobedience to force a ch-ch-change.
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Post by Irish Stu on May 8, 2009 9:48:33 GMT -6
There have been lots of cases here where people have spray painted over the lenses of speed cameras or, even better, put a tyre on one along with a bottle of petrol, and set it alight.    Simon |
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Post by Chicago Jake on May 8, 2009 13:59:25 GMT -6
Okay, Chris; I can't tell from the wording of your post. Did you actually STOP for 2.8 seconds? Or was it a rolling "stop" that lasted for 2.8 seconds? You mentioned that you stopped, but also that you "glided."
If you didn't come to a complete stop, then you got the ticket fair and square. If you did, then the BASTARDS are out of line......Jake
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Post by Christinko on May 8, 2009 16:46:21 GMT -6
I did not come to a complete stop. The warning notice was legit.
The letter said I stopped FOR 2.8 seconds which they called a "rolling stop," which WAS a rolling stop if a stop is supposed to be 4-5 seconds, which is exactly how I drive when no one is around to be endangered.
I'm not arguing that I didn't follow the letter of the law--I DIDn'T...I'm just not so black and white with rules of any kind.
My complaint is #1 having cameras watch me and #2 having the warning letter appear when I'm not causing a dangerous situation.
Sure, rules are in place to keep us safe, but, in my gray little world, when the reason for the rules doesn't apply, then I can do as I please. Granted, I also recognize I must suffer the consequences for my actions when someone catches me and doesn't agree.
All these cameras all over the place IS just how the Big Brother scenario starts. It's chilling to me. That's all I saw saying.
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Post by innit Geezer on May 8, 2009 18:38:51 GMT -6
A NYC police friend of mine is very upset that the E-Z Pass system has been trial tested and can record your speed along the Westchester side of the New York State Thruway. Funny how a guy who enforces the law despises some of it's reach.
He said it's just a matter of time before your speed will be recorded and a ticket sent.
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Post by innit Geezer on May 8, 2009 20:57:50 GMT -6
Im not sure the Hedo bus counts Gary ;D One time while riding in the bus to H2 I had the solo seat opposite the driver. As the mood changed to vacation mode and the second Tiger Stout was welcomed, a smooth sexy leg (which I thought was my wife's) swung around my seat. Catching the moment I started to rub "said leg" with warmth and affection. After about 15 seconds the pleasant and appreciative gentleman had had enough. I was embarrassed but reminded him that this bus was going to Hedo! ;D It was his and his wife's first trip to Hedo and for the entire week they never stepped foot on the nude side. (I wonder if it had anything to do with accidentally being rubbed) I can see they're trip report ---- "We were accosted on the bus! Some pervert couldn't even wait to get there before making his move! Pig! Next time we're trying Grand Lido where they have standards and taking the plane! |
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on May 9, 2009 4:49:36 GMT -6
Im not sure the Hedo bus counts Gary ;D One time while riding in the bus to H2 I had the solo seat opposite the driver. As the mood changed to vacation mode and the second Tiger Stout was welcomed, a smooth sexy leg (which I thought was my wife's) swung around my seat. Catching the moment I started to rub "said leg" with warmth and affection. After about 15 seconds the pleasant and appreciative gentleman had had enough. I was embarrassed but reminded him that this bus was going to Hedo! ;D It was his and his wife's first trip to Hedo and for the entire week they never stepped foot on the nude side. (I wonder if it had anything to do with accidentally being rubbed) I can see they're trip report ---- "We were accosted on the bus! Some pervert couldn't even wait to get there before making his move! Pig! Next time we're trying Grand Lido where they have standards and taking the plane! Lesson learned... guys, another reason to not shave your legs! |
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Post by Irish Stu on May 9, 2009 7:55:21 GMT -6
A NYC police friend of mine is very upset that the E-Z Pass system has been trial tested and can record your speed along the Westchester side of the New York State Thruway. Funny how a guy who enforces the law despises some of it's reach. He said it's just a matter of time before your speed will be recorded and a ticket sent For the past few years in France cameras at toll booths record your license plate number and time you to the next one. If you speed a ticket is issued. In the UK, the cameras (such as the one in the pictures I posted above) that record your speed at a moment in time are disappearing in favour of cameras every couple of miles or so. Your speed between them is calculated and a ticket issued if you are more than 10% above the speed limit. With the old style speed cameras drivers would slow down when they saw them and speed up again once they had driven past... with the new system there is no escape  Simon |
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Post by innit Geezer on May 9, 2009 11:43:49 GMT -6
Lesson learned... guys, another reason to not shave your legs! Gordon, I was going to try making a joke about his legs not being shaved and that's how I got fooled.  Something along the lines of: breasts like nice tomatoes and skin like a nice pineapple -- but I decided against it. ;D |
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Post by innit Geezer on May 9, 2009 12:05:25 GMT -6
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Post by Merlot Joe on May 10, 2009 0:50:31 GMT -6
She was just shifting gears.
Joe
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Post by innit Geezer on May 10, 2009 5:32:22 GMT -6
At least they were wearing their seat belts.
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Post by Merlot Joe on May 10, 2009 9:24:49 GMT -6
They were getting ready for the rapid acceleration of the gear shifting.
Joe
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Post by Irish Stu on May 10, 2009 11:51:00 GMT -6
She couldn't remember whereabouts in the gearbox reverse was... whether it was 'squeeze and pull up knob at top left', or 'push down' at bottom right, but she was determined to work that gear lever until she found it.
Simon
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Post by Tex on May 10, 2009 20:17:29 GMT -6
She may have been blowing more than red lights.
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Post by Merlot Joe on May 10, 2009 23:38:55 GMT -6
She may have been blowing more than red lights. That's called OVERDRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D Joe |
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Post by Dan on May 16, 2009 23:17:16 GMT -6
Followed shortly by "wipe" out.
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Post by DT on May 17, 2009 16:33:47 GMT -6
Followed by a hydrospermoplane, then a wipe out.
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