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Post by viperess on Dec 4, 2008 20:35:17 GMT -6
I'm sorry Gordon. Losing a mom/mom n law is a great loss. I'll say lots of prayers for you guys. DD
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 16, 2008 6:29:30 GMT -6
Ann has been trying to get home from Phoenix for the past two days now. Shes been stuck in MSP because of a blizzard here. The weather is letting up a bit, but the backlog of missed flights means she wouldnt get in until tomorrow. SO, she is diverting to another airport in Wisconsin, Ive got to drive the 3 hours each way to go get her. See you all tomorrow.
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 16, 2008 6:43:38 GMT -6
Get coffee and set the radio to some good music. Have a safe trip.
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Post by Irish Stu on Dec 16, 2008 8:27:11 GMT -6
Have a safe trip Gordon.
Simon
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Post by Tex on Dec 16, 2008 9:48:41 GMT -6
Be careful Gordon. The weather is terrible up there in Yankee Land.
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 16, 2008 18:37:13 GMT -6
With the image of what it's like driving out of the U.P. I thought you guys might enjoy this commentary from Jeff Foxworthy. I can testify that upstate New Yorkers are just like these lines. Can you tell I'm a proud New Yorker? Jeff Foxworthy on Upstate New York: If you consider it a sport to gather your food by drilling through 36 inches of ice and sitting there all day hoping that the food will swim by, you might live in Upstate New York. If you're proud that your region makes the national news 96 nights a year because Saranac Lake is the coldest spot in the nation, and Syracuse gets more snow than any other major city in the US, you might live in Upstate, NY. If your local Dairy Queen is closed from October through May, you might live in Upstate New York. If you get 131 inches of snow in a week and you comment that 'winter's finally here', you might live near Oswego in Upstate New York. If someone in a Home Depot store offers you assistance, and they don't work there, you might live in Upstate NY. If you have worn shorts and a parka on the same day, you might live in Upstate New York. If you have had a lengthy phone conversation with someone who dialed a wrong number, you might live in Upstate New York. YOU KNOW YOU ARE A TRUE UPSTATE NEW YORKER WHEN: "Vacation" means going South past Saratoga for the weekend. You measure distance in hours. You know several people who have hit a deer more than once. You often switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day and back again. You can drive 65 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard, without flinching. You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked. You carry jumper cables in your car and your girlfriend/wife knows how to use them. You design your kid's Halloween costume to fit over a snowsuit. Driving is better in the winter because the potholes are filled with snow. You know all 4 seasons: almost winter, winter, still winter, and road construction. You can identify a southern or eastern accent. Down South to you means ALBANY . Your neighbor throws a party to celebrate his new shed. You go out for a fish fry every Friday. Your 4th of July picnic was moved indoors due to frost. You have more miles on your snow blower than your car. You find 10 degrees "a little chilly." and 55 is shorts weather. www.oldforge.net/webcam1.html
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 17, 2008 6:49:22 GMT -6
With the image of what it's like driving out of the U.P. I thought you guys might enjoy this commentary from Jeff Foxworthy. I can testify that upstate New Yorkers are just like these lines. Can you tell I'm a proud New Yorker? Jeff Foxworthy on Upstate New York: If you consider it a sport to gather your food by drilling through 36 inches of ice and sitting there all day hoping that the food will swim by, you might live in Upstate New York. If you're proud that your region makes the national news 96 nights a year because Saranac Lake is the coldest spot in the nation, and Syracuse gets more snow than any other major city in the US, you might live in Upstate, NY. If your local Dairy Queen is closed from October through May, you might live in Upstate New York. If you get 131 inches of snow in a week and you comment that 'winter's finally here', you might live near Oswego in Upstate New York. If someone in a Home Depot store offers you assistance, and they don't work there, you might live in Upstate NY. If you have worn shorts and a parka on the same day, you might live in Upstate New York. If you have had a lengthy phone conversation with someone who dialed a wrong number, you might live in Upstate New York. YOU KNOW YOU ARE A TRUE UPSTATE NEW YORKER WHEN: "Vacation" means going South past Saratoga for the weekend. You measure distance in hours. You know several people who have hit a deer more than once. You often switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day and back again. You can drive 65 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard, without flinching. You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked. You carry jumper cables in your car and your girlfriend/wife knows how to use them. You design your kid's Halloween costume to fit over a snowsuit. Driving is better in the winter because the potholes are filled with snow. You know all 4 seasons: almost winter, winter, still winter, and road construction. You can identify a southern or eastern accent. Down South to you means ALBANY . Your neighbor throws a party to celebrate his new shed. You go out for a fish fry every Friday. Your 4th of July picnic was moved indoors due to frost. You have more miles on your snow blower than your car. You find 10 degrees "a little chilly." and 55 is shorts weather. www.oldforge.net/webcam1.html I dont understand how any of these are joke, I live them all, except substitute Wisconsin locations (like Green Bay) for the NY locations. The pickup went well, the flight she came in on had 20 people on it and more than 1/2 were Houghton refugees with other friends picking them up after making the same drive I did. OH YES, after all these years up here, I had a new experience early yesterday morning... Everyone has seen the shimmer on the highway in summertime that looks like a puddle of water that disappears as you approach it. Yesterday morning I had that same illusion going down the hardpack snow covered highway (at 65 like it says above). The sun had not gotten above the horizon yet and there was almost no wind. The temps outside were in the -20 range, and I saw that same 'puddle'. I have not firmly decided on the physics yet, but there are two possibilities. That illusion is cause by a thin layer of air at the surface that is a different density than the air around it. Normally in the summer the road surface is very hot. It could be that there was a thin layer of supercold air (-40 to -50 I would have to guess) lying just on the road surface, OR the road was still emitting heat and there was relatively warm air (+10 to +20) at the surface. Im tending to think it was the latter, If I remember my physics correctly, if the air was colder the light rays that cause the illusion would bend downward rather than upward.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Dec 17, 2008 12:12:01 GMT -6
Or it was black ice. Did you drive over it?
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 17, 2008 12:53:09 GMT -6
Definitely NOT black ice, the road was covered snowbank edge to snowbank edge with hardpack snow, the 'black' disappeared as I approached it, just like summer.
Edited: Though I will admit, for the first few seconds I saw it, black ice was my first thought.
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Post by nolaflacav on Dec 17, 2008 13:05:10 GMT -6
Definitely NOT black ice, the road was covered snowbank edge to snowbank edge with hardpack snow, the 'black' disappeared as I approached it, just like summer. Edited: Though I will admit, for the first few seconds I saw it, black ice was my first thought. OK. I will bite. Inquiring southern minds want to know. I am aware of yellow snow but what the hell is black ice? And just for the record it is 77 here today and there is not a snow ball's chance in hell of us ever seeing black ice
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 17, 2008 13:10:17 GMT -6
Definitely NOT black ice, the road was covered snowbank edge to snowbank edge with hardpack snow, the 'black' disappeared as I approached it, just like summer. Edited: Though I will admit, for the first few seconds I saw it, black ice was my first thought. OK. I will bite. Inquiring southern minds want to know. I am aware of yellow snow but what the hell is black ice?How much you wanna bet Google would know?
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 17, 2008 13:20:38 GMT -6
And just for the record it is 77 here today and there is not a snow ball's chance in hell of us ever seeing black ice Here's one for you. This only used to happen only once or twice a year, now it's become a very common occurancehere. Down to 25 here this morning. That never used to happen, and they talk about global warming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe
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Post by nolaflacav on Dec 17, 2008 13:39:50 GMT -6
OK. I will bite. Inquiring southern minds want to know. I am aware of yellow snow but what the hell is black ice? How much you wanna bet Google would know? Normally I would do that. But when Gordon went Mr. Wizard this morning with his discussion of physics and what he experienced I thought I would offer him an opportunity to explain further. I find this stuff interesting.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 17, 2008 13:54:32 GMT -6
Nola, I would answer you, but Beeb already has his hand in his pocket, ready to flash me a "red card", I dont know if I can handle that again, I may be near a season DQ if I get another. OH WTF... here it goes... black ice is essentially ice that forms on a road surface that is so smooth that it appears black to a driver, and hence can look like a normal road surface, thus catching the driver unaware that he is about to take a spin, literally, until its too late. We dont get it too much here, its more a product of warmer climes. LinkNormally that would be helpful, HOWEVER, in the original context, I was referring to the AC/DC album
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 17, 2008 14:16:07 GMT -6
Nola, I would answer you, but Beeb already has his hand in his pocket, ready to flash me a "red card" ... Silly boy -- you *know* that's not why my hand is in my pocket ...
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 17, 2008 14:18:11 GMT -6
Saw that one coming at me like an Iraqi loafer
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 17, 2008 14:22:18 GMT -6
And as a way of rewarding you for the perfect set-up, I'll take back that last red card.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 17, 2008 14:41:58 GMT -6
DAMN, Christmas comes prematurely
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 17, 2008 14:56:31 GMT -6
"Coming prematurely"? Jeez, if you keep giving me so many of these easy set-ups, I'm going to have to take back ALL of the red cards I handed out to you (which I suspect was your plan all along).
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 17, 2008 15:16:17 GMT -6
Hope you dont mind if I return them all stuck together.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 17, 2008 15:41:07 GMT -6
Using them on your Hand Puppet again, I see.
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