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Post by Merlot Joe on Mar 14, 2005 19:11:27 GMT -6
Just hot off the news wire.
A major earthquake with a rating of 8.9 on the Richter scale has hit Mexico.
Two million Mexicans have died and over a million are injured. The country is in total ruin and the Mexican Government doesn't know where to start with providing help.
The rest of the world in in shock. Canada is sending troops to help the Mexican Army control riots. Saudi Arabia is sending oil. Other Latin American countries are sending all types of supplies. The European community (except France) is sending food and money.
The United States, not to be outdone, is sending two million replacement Mexicans.
God Bless America.
Joe.
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Post by luckyhedo on Mar 15, 2005 7:38:22 GMT -6
Joe, with all due respect that is sick, I don't believe you would think it was funny if someone just changed Mexico to Californians.
The Good Sister
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Post by Merlot Joe on Mar 15, 2005 13:12:00 GMT -6
Joe, with all due respect that is sick, I don't believe you would think it was funny if someone just changed Mexico to Californians. The Good Sister Good Sister , This was e-mailed to me by a friend of mine who is Mexican and he thought it was funny. Shows what you know. It's a fucking joke so just get over it. If it didn't bother him it don't bother me, and I can care less if it bothers you or not. And I am not giving you any due respect either>  If you lived out here you wouldn't do to good with the local radio station and DJ's that are alway cracking Mexican jokes. And it's not only the white DJ's , hell the Mexican DJ's are worse. Mexican jokes are acceptable out here, as long as they are not with racial intent. So take your liberal I know everything and keep it to yourself. You really pissed me off. Joe. |
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 15, 2005 18:53:42 GMT -6
Joe, don't take it personally. Liberals rarely have a sense of humor, just a sense of righteous indignation. That is their burden.
Also, I heard the same report. They said Mexico City is completely leveled! Damage is estimated at about $200.....Jake
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Post by Merlot Joe on Mar 15, 2005 19:37:33 GMT -6
The problem is Jake they engage their mouth's (in this case fingers,) before they engage their brains.  Kind of like a slipping clutch. Joe. |
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Mar 16, 2005 6:41:38 GMT -6
Sorry Joe... I have to agree with Lou on this. Jokes based on massive death and human tragedy just dont seem to find a home these days. Dont get pissed that we dont find human suffering funny, even in a joke... just blame liberals lack of humor on the holocaust, 9/11 and the tsunami if you must.
Gordon
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Post by Merlot Joe on Mar 16, 2005 8:29:52 GMT -6
just blame liberals lack of humor Gordon No I'll just blame you on the lack of humor and the cause of always having soemthing to bitch about. No what Gordon, it was a fucking joke and I really don't give a rats ass if you liked it or not., and that goes for anyone else here. Joe. |
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 16, 2005 9:30:04 GMT -6
Nearly all jokes or other forms of humor have some sort of pain, misfortune, or death at their core. It might be something small like slipping on a banana peel or shitting in your bed, or big like your mother-in-law dying or the Titanic going down. Often it involves embarassment. Just try to think of a joke that doesn't involve some sort of cruelty to somebody.
Some psychologists believe that the humor response is the brain's way of dealing with this pain. It releases a little shot of endorphins (or whatever) to counteract the pain you feel from the unpleasant situation. A joke is just an artificial way to stimulate a dose of this humor response, deliberately.
Just one way to look at it.....Jake
Q: How many women with PMS does it take to ch-ch-change a light bulb?
A: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!!
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Mar 16, 2005 10:17:56 GMT -6
Jake
You are very correct in your assessment of the humor of misfortune. And many careers have been based on that type of humor, hell its the entire genre of slapstick, a form that I am particularly fond of. And jokes about death and injury have been posted on this board that I find tremendously funny. But the scope, situation, and resolution of the setup and punchline in these have an entirely different feel to them. I dont know that I can put the difference into words at this time, but I will ponder and write when they form.
The setup of a massive Mexican earthquake with 2 million casulties sets a tone of a major human catastrophy. And granted, an individual's grief of losing one person in a car accident (my mother was killed by a drunk driver when I was 19), is by no means insignificant, it IS understandable (on a human scale), and the resolution with a Canadian and a Scotsman being left at the gates of St Peter, points to the peculiaries (even stereotypical) of the participants. I am trying to see the foibles of human existence that makes massive death potentially humorous.
The punchline to the joke was GREAT, and I understand the resolution. The setup was the part that I have problems with. It would be like saying... do you want to hear a good Twin Towers collapse joke... or a great Banda Achae tsunami joke. Cant say that I would find any way to make that humorous, regardless of the punchline.
Respectfully
Gordon
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Post by Tex on Mar 16, 2005 11:02:30 GMT -6
I think there is a big difference between joking about make-believe hypothetical disasters and real disasters.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Mar 16, 2005 11:37:49 GMT -6
And so the following would be... funny? , not funny?
Just hot off the news wire.
A major earthquake with a rating of 8.9 on the Richter scale has hit Indonesia.
Two hundred thousand have died as a result of the tsunami that followed. The country is in total ruin and the Indonesian Government doesn't know where to start with providing help.
The rest of the world in in shock. Canada is sending troops to help the Indonesian Army control riots. Saudi Arabia is sending oil. Other Latin American countries are sending all types of supplies. The European community (except France) is sending food and money.
The United States, not to be outdone, is sending two hundred thousand replacement Indonesians.
God Bless America.
Its hypothetical... The earthquake was 9.1, only 100,000 or so actually died in Indonesia, the country was not in ruin, etc etc...
Gordon
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Post by Captain Gary on Mar 16, 2005 13:09:51 GMT -6
Not as funny as the Mexican earthquake because we don't have as big of a problem with illegal Indonesians as we do Mexicans.
My opinion, of course...
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Post by Merlot Joe on Mar 16, 2005 13:14:16 GMT -6
Gordon there is were you are wrong. There was no earthquake in Mexico and 2 million did not die. If it had it would not have been funny and I would not have posted it.
Your example on the tsunami is not funny and no one here would have posted it because it was a true historical fact. That would have been sick.
Sorry if you don't see it that way but................that your problem.
Hell out here in CA we are always making jokes about earthquakes and how CA is going to fall into the ocean kill everyone here and how Las Vegas is going to become the new port on the west coast.
Get with it man.
Joe.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Mar 16, 2005 14:01:46 GMT -6
I would have been surprised if someone HAD thought the ch-ch-change in the joke to Indonesia was funny, and if Mexico were to have a massive earthquake tonight, that joke would no longer be funny either, I suppose.
I guess the line between funny and 'sick', like art, is in the eye of the beholder. Our lines are simply drawn in different places. I have said my peace on this topic.
Respect to all
Gordon
Personal aside... On the evening of September 12, 2001, my family and I went to see a road production of the successful Broadway show "Titanic: The Musical". The tickets had been purchased weeks in advance.
The production was very respectful of the incident and the lives lost, yet it was a musical.. AND I came out of the show wondering if in 80-100 years someone would write a Broadway show called "Trade Towers: The Musical". At the time, and still, I consider the concept absurd, yet someone wrote one about the Titanic, and I went to see it. Self examination of the limits of 'appropriateness' I suppose. At this point, I would NOT go to see the Titanic musical again.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Mar 16, 2005 18:20:48 GMT -6
Just think of the Movie's, Plays, Musicals, that have been made from disasters. How many Titanic, Pearl Harbor, movies have been made.
Yeah some day some one will make a big screen movie out of 9/11. It's bound to happen sooner or later.
Joe.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 16, 2005 18:34:35 GMT -6
I seem to remember a LOT of jokes coming fast on the heels of the NASA Challenger disaster, the Bhopal India chemical disaster, the exploding Pinto gas tank and flipping Suzuki Samurai problems, Princess Diana's death, Christopher Reeves' horse accident, etc. etc. etc., and I thought they were all funny. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think real tragedies are exempt from being funny. That's how we mere humans deal with tragedies when logic and tears aren't enough.....Jake
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Post by Merlot Joe on Mar 16, 2005 18:38:40 GMT -6
. That's how we mere humans deal with tragedies when logic and tears aren't enough.....Jake Damn Jake, I think you hit the nail on the head!!  Joe. |
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Kind of like a slipping clutch.
