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Post by Chicago Jake on Jun 9, 2013 22:22:31 GMT -6
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Post by nolaflacav on Jun 10, 2013 13:01:07 GMT -6
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Post by New Mama on Jun 10, 2013 15:07:04 GMT -6
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jun 10, 2013 23:14:01 GMT -6
Bob - the thread is still there. Denny quite logically moved it to the "general" forum rather than the Hedo forum. My link still takes you to it.
I agree with you that suicide is a mostly selfish thing; you leave a lot of pain behind for those who loved you the most. But I don't think I'd be quite so dogmatic as you are. There are situations where it is warranted. Not always, of course, and maybe not even most of the time. But I believe there are special circumstances, like extreme and painful disease type situations, where it is warranted. Was it warranted in this situation? None of us can judge.
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Post by New Mama on Jun 11, 2013 8:37:32 GMT -6
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Post by New Mama on Jun 17, 2013 10:15:22 GMT -6
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jun 17, 2013 15:45:11 GMT -6
I learned from several sources that his wife recently left him and a divorse was in process. It would appear to be a case of severe depression or at worst, revenge. A ha! So they no longer did that VooDoo that they did so well. |
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Post by Observer on Jul 1, 2013 20:37:05 GMT -6
I feel for the family who has to put up with dip-shits like Bob who makes out of context comments judging what he does not understand. Even if you happen to be completely on target about Todd and his last thoughts (and that's a big if), Todd does not benefit from your moronic self appointed "wisdom". It's his family who gets to sort it out. They have a bad enough uphill battle to engage without the need to find a place for your opinions. I met him. Felt that he was full of life and seemed to enjoy creating an environment where people have fun. I wish he'd found his way in this life. He will be missed.
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Post by New Mama on Jul 2, 2013 12:34:07 GMT -6
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Post by Friend on Jul 2, 2013 16:08:52 GMT -6
Having known Todd for a very long time I can truly say he was a great person and friend. It is very sad that he is no longer with us . My thoughts and prayers go out to his family. It is also very sad in times like these the individuals such as this BOB make the comments that they do . Bob should learn to keep his mouth shut as he obviously a POS or maybe someone should shut it for him. If he in fact truly is a doctor I can only imagine what a joke he must be. No one can ever put themselves in someone else's shoes and should refrain from making hurtful comments. That said I hope Todd is now in peace.
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Post by New Mama on Jul 3, 2013 8:26:33 GMT -6
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jul 6, 2013 0:26:42 GMT -6
I was surprised to receive another email from Love VooDoo today. Apparently Todd's discorporation has not dampened their enthusiasm for sending unsolicited emails to DennyP subscribers. It's nice to know that life marches on!
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Post by Chicago Jake on Aug 30, 2013 1:01:48 GMT -6
C'mon guys. You know me better than that.
I started this board eight years ago with a simple philosophy: that we are all adults here (even Bob), and that we are responsible for our own posts and our own actions. I vowed NEVER to delete, censor, or move a posting merely because I disagreed with it. And I stand by that promise and take it very seriously. I will not remove anyone's post against their will. And to delete an entire thread would be to delete many people's posts. I won't do it. End of story.
You are free to delete your OWN posts any time you like. That is a decision you can make based on your own personal preference and your own conscience. That's fine. I totally support that decision. But if you ask me to delete the entire thread, you are asking me to delete OTHER peoples' posts. And that's just wrong and I won't do it.
I will not impose my own opinion (or even worse, someone else's opinion) to make someone's post go away. That would be crazy! I much prefer offensive posts to censorship. As a wise man once said, "The answer to offensive speech is MORE speech, not less."
I have invited Elena to post in this thread and inform us of her own facts, her own opinions, her own situation. Maybe she will. I hope she does. Free discourse is much better than imposed censorship. I would love to hear her story. We can only hope she comes through and lets us all be better informed.
But I will not now, or ever, delete anyone's posting just because somebody, somewhere, is offended by it. In my mind, the right to express oneself is far more important than someone else's alleged right not to be offended.
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Post by nolaflacav on Aug 30, 2013 6:10:02 GMT -6
It is certainly your decision Jake but I disagree with it wholeheartedly. Here are are a couple of sentences from my first post ever on this board. And I still stand by those first thoughts. This is playing too rough and it is time to be a good deed doer. Life is too short.
I wanted to help wrap up 2007 by offering a big thank you to all the members of the TNMC. I have been a frequent visitor to this site since early in 05. But I have never had the desire to get off the porch and play. Sometimes you all play too rough. But most of the time everyone is considerate. And almost always everyone is irreverent and usually very funny too.
So simply put. Thank you very much. Without even knowing it you have all been good deed doers during your time at TNMC. And I am most appreciative.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Aug 31, 2013 1:11:10 GMT -6
I will delete this thread on one condition: if ALL posters delete their own posts first. In that case, I won't be trampling on anyone's rights to free expression. But unless that happens, the thread stands.
And I still hope Elena will enlighten us with her own input.
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Post by nolaflacav on Sept 3, 2013 7:57:17 GMT -6
This pains me. There is a simple request for an act of kindness on the table. And as I expected it is going to deteriorate into an extended debate that further extends this thread.
I appreciate Jakes's right to moderate his board as he chooses. And likewise Bob is free to stand his ground.
But I also choose not to be a part of this anymore. It does not make me feel good. So I feel it is time to crawl back up on the porch and quit running with the dogs. And with that I bid adieu to the TNMC and to you and you and you.
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Sept 3, 2013 18:13:46 GMT -6
This is NOT about the immorality or otherwise of Todd and his wife's choices. She did not message me and say how hurt and upset she was by the comments here, though no doubt she was. Whatever you think of her and her husband's activities she is a grieving widow but has behaved with dignity and asked only that we think of his children. ONLY the children. What is so fucking difficult about making a choice not to devastate them when they read this thread and risking fucking those kids up more than life has already just fucked them up? What is so fucking difficult about that? You do know, that by deleting this thread, IT DOES NOT DISAPPEAR!! YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT?  EVERYTHING written here is archived on Google and others and is READABLE whether this thread is deleted or NOT! I obviously disagree that by simply not deleting posts, I'm somehow being disrespectful. QUITE THE CONTRARY, I want the folk(s) who want these posts deleted to know that what-ever issue they have with what was written, IT WON'T GO AWAY by simply deleting this thread or posts. Unless they DEAL WITH IT DIRECTLY, it will come back to haunt them. Why is that so hard to understand?? YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES BY SWEEPING THEM UNDER A RUG!!! With that said, if I could unring this bell, I'd delete this whole shebang and get rid of it. Only Jake can do that, so I hope he does. Losing friends over this isn't worth it. So for those who think that all will be well by deleting posts, I'm off to do that as long as I can figure out how. Good day! |
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Post by Chicago Jake on Sept 3, 2013 19:05:15 GMT -6
Do you all remember why this message board even exists? We were fed up with DennyP deleting threads, moving threads, locking threads. We wanted a place where we could speak our minds without worrying about nattering nannies complaining. So I set this up with the promise that it would be dedicated to free speech.
Free speech doesn't just apply to speech you agree with. It doesn't just apply to speech that doesn't offend you. If you can't defend the rights of people to disagree with you and even to offend you, then you DON'T BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH.
I've already posted what it will take for me to delete this thread. You guys have it in your power to make that happen.
As for Elena's alleged children, there are MUCH MUCH WORSE things on the internet for them to see than this thread or this entire board. Policing her minor children's internet browsing habits is NONE of our responsibilities. It is HER responsibility. If there is a parent alive today that doesn't know how to exert internet controls, then I'd be very surprised. Especially a parent who runs an internet based business!
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Sept 4, 2013 18:55:26 GMT -6
Censorship, did we want this here? NO. However, everyone here has agreed to pull the plug on this one. There is a first time for everything. Children are involved and we need to draw a line in the sand somewhere. This is a good starting point. If it wasn't for the kids I would no way. You put yourself in this postion so live with iot. These kids didn't ask for this. It is not some much of having Todd's children find but it would be even more divesting to them if one of their friends found it and passed the information on to everyone in their school. Pull the plug. Not to beat a dead horse, but found WHAT?? WHAT INFORMATION??? I'm still trying to figure out WHAT INFORMATION we are trying to protect the kids from. That the guy committed suicide or that they ran a sex club?? WHICH IS it?? The idea that that information is available solely here at TNMC seems a stretch to me. |
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Post by Chicago Jake on Sept 4, 2013 23:44:41 GMT -6
What I find most interesting is this: that so many of the people asking for me to delete this thread have NOT deleted their own contributions! It strikes me as a very mixed message. If you really want the thread to go away, vote with you mouse and delete your own posts.
Edit: Okay, those who are calling for the thread to be deleted now HAVE expunged their posts. Well, all but NOLA. I applaud your integrity. But some posters are still standing by their posts. And I applaud their integrity as well.
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Post by Albert on Jan 5, 2015 17:49:58 GMT -6
Do anybody know WHERE this was located? His wife have a house for sale 13809 Lewisdale Rd Clarksburg Md 20871 and it never mentions a suicide happening at that location.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Jan 7, 2015 0:44:32 GMT -6
Do anybody know WHERE this was located? His wife have a house for sale 13809 Lewisdale Rd Clarksburg Md 20871 and it never mentions a suicide happening at that location. Sorry, but most of the original posts seem to have been lost. For some reason, I think I remember it being in Florida, but that is a total guess. Sorry about that! |
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 26, 2015 14:24:37 GMT -6
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on May 4, 2015 20:40:36 GMT -6
I still get the occasional email from them. Water slide chain?? Not a sound endeavor to me but I don't like taking unnecessary risks. I'm weird that way.
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jake I say we open up our own pot shop and grow our own, sell it and make a bazillion dollars. Game?
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