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Post by Robin Hood on Mar 7, 2013 10:16:16 GMT -6
I watched pretty much all 13 hours of Rand Pauls filibuster!! The man is a machine, he stayed on topic for ALL of it. I don't give a shit if you are right or left, the stand he took was AMERICAN and the American people deserve an answer to his question... All he wants is for our POTUS to stand up and say that it is unlawful to use drones against American citizens on American soil... a no brainer. A question that our POTUS is refusing to answer, which should scare the living hell out of every American citizen!
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Post by New Mama on Mar 7, 2013 11:42:20 GMT -6
I understand the move made but have some mixed feelings about it.
Holder made a case for using the drone in extreme circumstances like 9-11, even if I don't see how use of a drone would have changed the events on that awful day. But I can't see the future or imagine what event could be thwarted by a drone on our soil. Truly I'm not for its use here, but maybe some procedure should be established where Congress could review the need if some such event were to happen. As I recall only Congress can support a declaration of war notwithstanding Obama’s actions in Liba. It does make one wonder how much power he thinks he has.
I don't like having to pay our lawmakers to stand up and prohibit the progress of government over an event that will likely never happen. We have way more pressing matters that require action now. Rand and his supporters were really stopping any forward progress toward a vote for an Obama nominee John Brennan. I’d like to see some fucking progress in Washington. A 13 hour filibuster makes a great point but doesn’t get anything done. It also provides great fodder for the left in their never ending finger pointing about Republican obstruction….notwithstanding their do NOTHING record in the Senate.
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Mar 7, 2013 11:44:02 GMT -6
I watched pretty much all 13 hours of Rand Pauls filibuster!! The man is a machine, he stayed on topic for ALL of it. I don't give a shit if you are right or left, the stand he took was AMERICAN and the American people deserve an answer to his question... All he wants is for our POTUS to stand up and say that it is unlawful to use drones against American citizens on American soil... a no brainer. A question that our POTUS is refusing to answer, which should scare the living hell out of every American citizen! I just find this SOOooo FUNNY!! The liberals dream POTUS, replacing that EVIL BUSH, now having to answer about using drones against American Citizens, not to mention doing his best to ignore the Constitution when it comes to the right to bear arms, keeping Gitmo open after "guaranteeing" to close it . . . the list goes on and on . . . What a fucktard!! He really is a DIC - Dictator in Chief.
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Post by New Mama on Mar 7, 2013 12:47:54 GMT -6
Good point Bob. Can you imagine the liberal outcry if the Bush administration said such a thing? The media would have gone WILD!
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Post by Robin Hood on Mar 7, 2013 19:04:55 GMT -6
Anita, all they wanted was for this administration to state that use of drones against US citizens on US soil without due process was unconstitutional... end of story. Obama and company flat refused to make a statement, which I find extremely frightening... why would a sitting US President NOT want to state he was against using drones against US citizens on US soil unless he was planning to do that very thing... This wasn't about an imminent threat like the 4th airliner on 9-11, which Rand Paul supports the POTUS using deadly force against, but say some guy is sitting in a cabin in the woods of Montana plotting to blow something up... he is NOT an immediate threat. He might be a bad guy, but he still deserves protection under the rule of law. No president can be judge, jury and executioner... separation of powers and all that jazz...
That awkward moment when your Nobel Peace Prize winning President won't promise not to kill US citizens on US soil with drones... Feel free to see my last post on the hypocrisy of the left if you need more information.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 7, 2013 20:29:26 GMT -6
Obama wants the right to use drones to kill Americans on American soil. The media says nothing.
Bush wants the Patriot Act to - gasp! - SPY on Americans (Which Obama extended). The press has a freakin' conniption!!
Tell me again how there is no liberal bias in the media?
As for the filibuster - anything that stops the government, or slows them down, is a good thing in my book.
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Post by New Mama on Mar 8, 2013 9:29:44 GMT -6
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