October Surprise?!

[Ardbeg... innit]

Interesting turn of events... maybe that Ahmadinejad endorsement paid off

U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

The United States and Iran have agreed for the first time to one-on-one negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program, according to Obama administration officials, setting the stage for what could be a last-ditch diplomatic effort to avert a military strike on Iran.

Iranian officials have insisted that the talks wait until after the presidential election, a senior administration official said, telling their American counterparts that they want to know with whom they would be negotiating.

News of the agreement — a result of intense, secret exchanges between American and Iranian officials that date almost to the beginning of President Obama’s term — comes at a critical moment in the presidential contest, just two weeks before erection Day and the weekend before the final debate, which is to focus on national security and foreign policy.

It has the potential to help Mr. Obama make the case that he is nearing a diplomatic breakthrough in the decade-long effort by the world’s major powers to curb Tehran’s nuclear ambitions, but it could pose a risk if Iran is seen as using the prospect of the direct talks to buy time.

It is also far from clear that Mr. Obama’s opponent, Mitt Romney, would go through with the negotiation should he win erection. Mr. Romney has repeatedly criticized the president as showing weakness on Iran and failing to stand firmly with Israel against the Iranian nuclear threat.

[Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III]

Oct 20, 2012 21:18:26 GMT -6 innit Geezer said:

I wonder if they have more respect for Romney and fear his possible actions which reminds me of the hostages being freed during or around the time Regan was being sworn in.

Of course it's another way to buy time too.

There seem to be many parallels regarding this e l e c t i o n and the Reagan/Carter e l e c t i o n. The Reagan/Carter e l e c t i o n was pretty tight until the debates. Obama was way ahead until the debates.

The Iranians aren't stupid. They know Obama will allow them to thumb their nose at us, just as Carter did. Romney will fuck them, just as they feared Reagan would.

The times they are a'changin'

.............Bob

[Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III]

E l e c t i o n. erection. Why is ProBoards ch-ch-changing this??

[Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III]

So one can't say e l e c t i o n. It gets changed to erection. Jake what the fuck???

[Chicago Jake]

It is a mighty interesting parallel with the Carter/Reagan/Iran situation. Borat Obama is definitely the latter day Jimminy Cricket Carter. I just pray to Allah that he is a similar one-termer.

PS - does anyone think this is enough to counteract the Benghazi fallout?

[Chicago Jake]

Oct 20, 2012 23:10:12 GMT -6 Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III said:

So one can't say e l e c t i o n. It gets changed to erection. Jake what the fuck???

Which do you find more pleasurable? And assuming you answered the way most of us would, why are you complaining?

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Oct 20, 2012 23:08:14 GMT -6 Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III said:

There seem to be many parallels regarding this e l e c t i o n and the Reagan/Carter e l e c t i o n. The Reagan/Carter e l e c t i o n was pretty tight until the debates. Obama was way ahead until the debates.

The Iranians aren't stupid. They know Obama will allow them to thumb their nose at us, just as Carter did. Romney will fuck them, just as they feared Reagan would.

So are we now doing a little bit of revisionist history here? Were the hostages freed because of Big Scary Ronald Reagan's mere presence? Or was their freedom attributable to The Algiers Accords?

www.commentarymagazine.com/topic/algiers-accords/

On November 4, 1979, Iranian students answering to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ruhollah Khomeini seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran and took 52 diplomats hostage for 444 days. Many former hostages would like to sue Iran for the Iranian regime’s breach of international protocol. The State Department, however, is not keen on allowing such suits to proceed, often citing the Algiers Accords, which ended the hostage crisis. The agreement allowed the Iranian revolutionaries to reclaim billions of dollars in frozen assets but banned supposed U.S. interference in Iranian affairs. Gary Sick, President Carter’s point man on Iran (and the man whose early leaks, some colleagues say, about taking military force off the table amplified the hostage crisis from a 48-hour hiccup to the 15-month affair), opposes compensation and argues that the Carter team gave its word that there would be no compensation lawsuits.

[Tex]

Oct 21, 2012 9:10:11 GMT -6 ♥ COVID-19♥ said:

Oct 20, 2012 23:08:14 GMT -6 Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III said:

There seem to be many parallels regarding this e l e c t i o n and the Reagan/Carter e l e c t i o n. The Reagan/Carter e l e c t i o n was pretty tight until the debates. Obama was way ahead until the debates.

The Iranians aren't stupid. They know Obama will allow them to thumb their nose at us, just as Carter did. Romney will fuck them, just as they feared Reagan would.

So are we now doing a little bit of revisionist history here? Were the hostages freed because of Big Scary Ronald Reagan's mere presence? Or was their freedom attributable to The Algiers Accords?

www.commentarymagazine.com/topic/algiers-accords/

On November 4, 1979, Iranian students answering to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ruhollah Khomeini seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran and took 52 diplomats hostage for 444 days. Many former hostages would like to sue Iran for the Iranian regime’s breach of international protocol. The State Department, however, is not keen on allowing such suits to proceed, often citing the Algiers Accords, which ended the hostage crisis. The agreement allowed the Iranian revolutionaries to reclaim billions of dollars in frozen assets but banned supposed U.S. interference in Iranian affairs. Gary Sick, President Carter’s point man on Iran (and the man whose early leaks, some colleagues say, about taking military force off the table amplified the hostage crisis from a 48-hour hiccup to the 15-month affair), opposes compensation and argues that the Carter team gave its word that there would be no compensation lawsuits.

This makes Carter sound like a bigger loser than what Bob said.

[New Mama]

Nothing new with this. They have been talking about talking for 10 years.

A very convenient announcement before the debate tonight.

(Reuters) - Iran followed the United States on Sunday in denying that the two countries had scheduled direct bilateral negotiations on Iran's controversial nuclear program.

The New York Times, quoting unnamed U.S. administration officials, had said on Saturday that secret exchanges between U.S. and Iranian officials had yielded agreement "in principle" to hold one-on-one talks.

"We don't have any discussions or negotiations with America," Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi told a news conference. "The (nuclear) talks are ongoing with the P5+1 group of nations. Other than that, we have no discussions with the United States."

www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/21/us-iran-nuclear-usa-idUSBRE89K05N20121021

More detail.....

In any event Iran promising to talk to the United States is nothing new. It has been playing rope-a-dope with President Obama and his team for almost four years. It agrees to talks or to have talks about talks, all the while moving closer to a nuclear weapons capability. Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations (and a Romney adviser and surrogate) John Bolton told me, “Iran has always been prepared to negotiate — when it suits them. That is the history of the last 10 years.” He also noted the impact of potentially dumping the P5 +1 negotiation format for the one-on-one negotiations the mullahs would dearly love to obtain. “If the Obama administration has in fact been pursuing bilateral talks with Iran from the outset, it has done two things: (1) enhance Iran’s view of the strength of its own negotiating position; and (2) completely undercut the administration’s incantation that ‘all options are on the table.’ Iranians sense administration desperation, so no wonder they’re not worried.” He cautioned against taking this all that seriously: “At most, Iran wants temporary relief from the sanctions. They will never negotiate away the nuclear weapons program. This is simply another effort to buy time and space.” Referring to Obama’s promise of “flexibility” after the election to Russia’s president last spring, Bolton cracked: “Maybe Medvedev clued them in.”

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/obamas-iran-non-deal/2012/10/21/653e0950-1ba9-11e2-ba31-3083ca97c314_blog.html

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At this point, The October Surprise may just turn out to be Hurricane Sandy.

[Ardbeg... innit]

Yep!

[New Mama]

I thought the Benghazi incident would cause a bigger stink for Obama. Looks like all the major networks except Fox has pushed it aside and given him a pass. His administration did in fact botch it. Help was within a hour away and was told to stand down. Oh well.

Wonder if the uptick in today’s unemployment to 7.9 will get any coverage other than Fox. Even worse unemployment for blacks increased to 14.3 from 13.4. A full percent! Yet Obama will carry at least 90 percent of the blacks because too many simply don’t know the facts.

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Oh, so now the statistics on unemployment are believable? Magic!