Obama's foreign policies

[New Mama]

So much for Obama's reaching out and making friends. I guess I could have posted this in my 'Forward' thread.

SANAA, Yemen (AP) — With chants of “Death to America” and “Death to Israel,” hundreds of protesters angered by an anti-Islam film stormed the U.S. Embassy compound in Yemen‘s capital and burned the American flag on Thursday, the latest in a series of attacks on American diplomatic missions in the Middle East.



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Hundreds of Yemenis broke through the main gate of the heavily fortified compound in the capital Sanaa, shouting "We sacrifice ourselves for you, Messenger of God". They smashed windows of security offices outside the embassy and burned cars.

"We can see a fire inside the compound and security forces are firing in the air. The demonstrators are fleeing and then charging back," one witness told Reuters. A security source said at least 15 people were wounded, some by gunfire, before the Yemeni government ringed the area with troops. An embassy spokesman said its personnel were safe.

www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/13/us-protests-idUSBRE88C0J320120913

We should stop sending money to these countries until the Government apologizes for not protecting our embassy and vow to assist us in catching the thugs that killed the US citizens in our embassy.

Furthermore, I don’t like that Obama does not condemn the entire incident only vows to catch them. Catch them…that’s a joke. What a wimp. I don't agree with any film that attacks another religion but the bigger issue is that we have a right to free speech in this country and Obama should remind the world of that.

[Chicago Jake]

He tries to make nice with them out of one side of his mouth, but he brags about taking out bin Laden at the same time. Mixed messages, anyone?

[Merlot Joe]

It's the old don't do as I say do as I do.

[Tex]

All that ass kissing and bowing and scraping really paid off.

[Merlot Joe]

I think Obama had it back words. Teddy R said "speak softy and carry a big stick, you will go far". I think Obama thought he said "speak softly and play with your dick", because that's all that he has done so far.

[Chicago Jake]

I pity poor Borat Obama. He has to try to make US voters think that he loves America, and at the same time make middle east terrorists think that he hates America. That's a tough road to hoe! Poor, poor Borat. Good luck with that!

[Merlot Joe]

I think that this current unrest and additional hatred of America in the Middle East is just the beginning of something bigger to come. Israel is the 500 lb barrel of gun powder waiting to blow up and the fuse is getting shorter every day.

I say pack upand leave and let them all kill each other.

[New Mama]

Sept 13, 2012 23:30:11 GMT -6 Merlot Joe said:

I say pack upand leave and let them all kill each other.

Do that and you will be paying $100 a gallon come harvest next year.

[Tex]

Sept 14, 2012 9:14:49 GMT -6 New Mama said:

Sept 13, 2012 23:30:11 GMT -6 Merlot Joe said:

I say pack upand leave and let them all kill each other.

Do that and you will be paying $100 a gallon come harvest next year.

Or get busy drilling here and let the Chinese worry about the Middle East.

[New Mama]

Sept 14, 2012 9:48:18 GMT -6 Tex said:

Sept 14, 2012 9:14:49 GMT -6 New Mama said:

Do that and you will be paying $100 a gallon come harvest next year.

Or get busy drilling here and let the Chinese worry about the Middle East.

Only in my dreams. It is the answer but the greenie liberals will never let it happen.

[Merlot Joe]

Sept 14, 2012 9:14:49 GMT -6 New Mama said:

Sept 13, 2012 23:30:11 GMT -6 Merlot Joe said:

I say pack upand leave and let them all kill each other.

Do that and you will be paying $100 a gallon come harvest next year.

I will agree with you on that. The how about we go over there and just kick their asses, take number and just take the oil. we have the means to do it.

It's a brash idea but sonething has got to give.

[New Mama]

KABUL, Afghanistan — In a disastrous day for the NATO force in Afghanistan, four American troops were gunned down Sunday by Afghan police, a U.S. airstrike killed eight Afghan women foraging for fuel on a rural hillside, and military officials disclosed that a Taliban strike on a southern base had destroyed more than $150 million worth of planes and equipment — in money terms, by far the costliest single insurgent attack in 11 years of warfare.

The confluence of events underscored some of the conflict's most damaging trends: an unrelenting tide of "insider" attacks, in which Afghan forces turn their weapons on coalition allies; the daily loss of civilian lives to war's ravages; and the continuing ability of insurgent forces to inflict disproportionate havoc on the far more powerful Western military.

www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghan-violence-20120917,0,3894338.story

Obama's 'good' war comes to an embarrassing end. We should get out NOW before more die.

[Merlot Joe]

Exit stage left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[New Mama]

Who really believes that the Libyan riots on 9-11 were a result of an American made internet film released 2 months earlier? Just when do demonstrators come together with grenades and rock launchers? Spontaneous my ass. Yet the White House and our Ambassador to the UN blames the recent Middle East rioting on an internet video.

[Chicago Jake]

Who are they going to blame when Hollywood releases a major motion picture about the killing of bin Laden?

[Merlot Joe]

Sept 17, 2012 12:44:39 GMT -6 Chicago Jake said:

Who are they going to blame when Hollywood releases a major motion picture about the killing of bin Laden?

GWB.

[New Mama]

Spontaneous attack???

CNN) -- As part of the fallout from an online video that mocks Islam's holy prophet, al Qaeda's affiliate in North Africa on Tuesday urged Muslims in the region to kill U.S. government representatives and called the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens a "gift."

"We encourage all Muslims to continue to demonstrate and escalate their protests ... and to kill their (American) ambassadors and representatives or to expel them to cleanse our land from their wickedness," said the statement from al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

The group called last week's killing of Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya, "the best gift you (can) give to his arrogant and unjust administration."

www.cnn.com/2012/09/18/world/film-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

More...

The latest clarification from the administration came in response to an intelligence source on the ground in Libya telling Fox News there was no significant or sizeable demonstration when the attacks unfolded sometime after 9:30 p.m. in Benghazi last Tuesday. That appeared to challenge the view, espoused by the Obama administration, that ongoing demonstrations over an anti-Islam film had simply spun out of control.

"There was no protest, and the attacks were not spontaneous," the intelligence source said. "The Libyan attack was planned and had nothing to do with the movie."

Responding to the account, a U.S. official did not dispute that no major protest was taking place right before the strike. The U.S. official said a small group had gathered outside the consulate between 9 and 10 p.m. local time, but the investigation has yet to determine whether they were demonstrators or armed militants.

At first blush, it appears Libyan and Obama administration officials are offering two completely different accounts. The Libyans, including the Libyan president, say the attack was pre-planned. The Obama administration says it was spontaneous. Both sides are sticking to their version of events.

Read more: www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/18/administration-walks-tightrope-in-carefully-worded-accounts-libya-violence/#ixzz26pvZyc3a

Still more...

This weekend Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., took to the political talk shows to say the attacks were spontaneous reaction to the film, not a premeditated response to U.S. foreign policy.

But Libyan President Mohamed Yousef El-Magariaf contradicted her, telling CBS’ “Face the Nation” program that the way the attack in Benghazi was carried out “leaves us with no doubt that this was preplanned.”



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[Merlot Joe]

I still think that we need to get the hell out of there. We need to learn to live to fight another day.

[New Mama]

In the past three years, uniformed Afghans have murdered at least 97 US and NATO troops. How does our administration respond? By issuing orders for sensitivity training! Yep

To avoid offending them, US commanders are putting troops through intense Muslim sensitivity training. Among other things, they’ve been ordered to:
* Wear surgical gloves whenever handling a copy of the Koran.
* Never walk in front of a praying Muslim.
* Never show the bottom of boots while sitting or lying across from a Muslim, which in Islam is considered an insult.
* Never share photos of wives or daughters.
* Never smoke or eat in front of Muslims during the monthlong Ramadan fasting.
* Avoid winking, cursing or nose-blowing in the presence of Muslims — all viewed as insults in Islam.
* Avoid exiting the shower without a towel.
* Avoid offering and accepting things with the left hand, which in Islam is reserved for bodily hygiene and considered unclean.
Troops who violate the sensitivity rules face severe punishment.
Military officials who have done tours in Afghanistan are outraged that brass would even suggest US troops are partly to blame for their own murders.
“I would like to see a public affairs officer explain to the press where showing the bottom of your shoe to a Muslim or shaking with your left hand was legitimate grounds for murder,” growled one US Army official.

Indeed, a Taliban video released last month revealed uniformed Afghans are itching for a chance to “kill infidels.”

“I opened fire on three Americans who were sitting together,” a rogue Afghan soldier, identified as Ghazi Mahmood, says while smiling for the camera. “The reason I killed them is because they have occupied our country. They are enemies of our religion.”

www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/blaming_our_troops_gsNkgSOnejhkmabM2KA6TI

[Ardbeg... innit]

All interesting talk from a groups who 4 year ago was CONVINCED that Obama would pull out too soon and allow our new found allies to fall under the control of the rebels who were waiting for us to leave.

So were you wrong then, or are you wrong now?

[New Mama]

Sept 29, 2012 6:27:52 GMT -6 Ardbeg... innit said:

All interesting talk from a groups who 4 year ago was CONVINCED that Obama would pull out too soon and allow our new found allies to fall under the control of the rebels who were waiting for us to leave.

So were you wrong then, or are you wrong now?

I (not being a group) thought then and I think now that you can not win a war by announcing the date you will quit. Our allies will fall under the rebels, not unlike his move in Iraq. Look for the Muslim Brotherhood to take the reins like in Egypt. The US have lost in the MiddleEast and we do not have enough money to buy our way out. We better start drilling because alternative fuel just isn't here yet.