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Post by Robin Hood on Dec 18, 2011 17:36:43 GMT -6
I applied for a position with the Parks Dept here a few months back... I got a call back and they want to talk some more with me... if I get this job we will be moving to Ft. Smith, Montana... for those of you that don't know where Ft. Smith it is located about 90 miles south of Billings... Population about 150 people and close to NOTHING. I will still be an IT geek, but will be working in and around all the National Parks in the area. I am guessing I will know more shortly after the first of the year.
I know for some people living that far off the beaten path would totally suck, but for my wife and I it is a dream come true. Let's see, IL sales tax is about 7%, Montana is ZERO, IL real estate taxes are ridiculous... I pay about $3200 on a $85k home... In Montana I would pay maybe $500 on my home. IL income tax... 5%, Montana's is a bit higher at 6.9%, but we will be saving a SHITLOAD not paying sales tax and lower real estate taxes. Montana currently has a Democrat as a Governor, however he is more conservative than just about any republican sitting in DC right now...
Toss in easy to obtain concealed carry permits, legalized pot (neither my wife or I smoke it, but it is FREEDOM), and being able to hunt and fish at my hearts content... yeah... I am a happy camper.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Dec 18, 2011 17:49:21 GMT -6
Good luck! Hope you get it. Of course, I myself would rather saw my own head off with a pocket knife than move to Montana, but it sounds like it would suit you.
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Post by Tex on Dec 18, 2011 18:13:45 GMT -6
Best of luck and hope it works out.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Dec 18, 2011 18:53:33 GMT -6
Good luck man.
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Post by Irish Stu on Dec 18, 2011 18:58:50 GMT -6
To echo Jake... it sounds like hell on earth to me. But if that is the life you want then the very best of luck to you, son.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 18, 2011 19:14:13 GMT -6
Ah, Big Sky Country! NO THANK YOU!
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 18, 2011 19:25:18 GMT -6
I'd love to escape the high cost of NY in exchange for the beautiful west. My biggest issue would be leaving my community behind but I understand the high r.e. taxes. Good luck and I hope it works out.
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Post by Irish Stu on Dec 18, 2011 19:27:42 GMT -6
But Gaz... I heard your community has been having collections to raise money to send you to the beautiful west...
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 18, 2011 20:37:25 GMT -6
My community is digging in my pocket. After decades of municipal abuse the homeowner and small business people are hung out to dry, just in time for the recession which started 4 years ago. Here in the Hudson Valley, there are homes with taxes at 3200 per month, hence the negative population growth of New York State.
I want to run away to a cabin in the hills of West Virgina, it cost pocket ch-ch-change to live there.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 18, 2011 20:47:48 GMT -6
Ah, the hills of West Vagina! How I do so long to rest upon its crest ...
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Dec 18, 2011 20:49:14 GMT -6
I have never understood the desire to live in New York or the surrounding area. WAY to expensive and WAY too many people!
My first house I ever owned was a two story 2-car garage 3 bedroom that sat on 3/4 acre outside Atlanta, Ga. I paid 72K for the house (this was way back in 1989).
I sold it two years later for a modest gain to a fellow from New York who thought he had bought the Ponderosa!! He lived downtown Manhattan and was transferred through his work. I don't think he had ever seen a blade of grass!
I love the Big Sky country!! Give me a million bucks and I'd buy a BIG RANCH long before a condo in New York City!! BLAH!!!
But, to each his own!
.............Bob
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 18, 2011 21:04:35 GMT -6
What are you talking about? You mean you don't pay $5 for a cup of orange
Juice and $3 for a croissant for breakfast?
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Post by innit Geezer on Dec 18, 2011 21:11:06 GMT -6
Ah, the hills of West Vagina! How I do so long to rest upon its crest ... Premium mid town rents are approximately $2000 per foot, so even a modest vaginal canal could run between 1700 and 2200 per month. |
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 18, 2011 21:22:30 GMT -6
I've paid more.
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Post by Robin Hood on Dec 18, 2011 21:56:59 GMT -6
I have been here in Chicago for the last 3 weeks working... and you can keep this city... too many people, too expensive, it is dirty, etc. I take the train to work in the morning from my hotel NOBODY talks to each other, they all look miserable. I LOVED Montana when I worked out there, everyone is friendly, they wave to each other on the road and all of them for the most part carry guns... it is HEAVEN!!
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Dec 18, 2011 22:07:25 GMT -6
I'd take Chicago any day over NYC. Chicago is pretty easy to get around and the folks there don't take themselves too seriously, unlike NYC where everyone thinks the entire world revolves around them.
Everyone in NYC seems to have a crab up their ass! I'm guessing it's just 'cuz to get from point A to point B requires an act of God! You can't even walk down the sidewalk without bumping into a hundred idiots who have NO FUCKING IDEA where they are going!
Go figure . . .
..............Bob
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Dec 18, 2011 22:08:47 GMT -6
PS: Gary, you can't buy orange juice here in Florida! All the good stuff is sent OUT! What we have sucks!
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 18, 2011 22:25:58 GMT -6
You can't even walk down the sidewalk without bumping into a hundred idiots who have NO FUCKING IDEA where they are going!
Your fellow tourists, perhaps? |
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 18, 2011 22:29:24 GMT -6
I have been here in Chicago for the last 3 weeks working... and you can keep this city... too many people, too expensive, it is dirty, etc. I've been to The Shy Town in 2006 a couple of times and found downtown Chicago to be so much cleaner than Manhattan that I almost thought I was in Toronto. Gives you an idea how dirty NYC is ... |
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Dec 18, 2011 22:33:13 GMT -6
You can't even walk down the sidewalk without bumping into a hundred idiots who have NO FUCKING IDEA where they are going!
Your fellow tourists, perhaps? Perhaps. They still suck. No? |
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 18, 2011 23:11:45 GMT -6
Over the years, I've worked in a number of areas that are populated by many tourists -- lately, Wall St. While we need to encourage tourism to NYC -- *especially* post-9/11 -- I must say that they do unnecessarily clog the already crowded and narrow sidewalks.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Dec 18, 2011 23:31:39 GMT -6
I have been here in Chicago for the last 3 weeks working... and you can keep this city... too many people, too expensive, it is dirty, etc. I take the train to work in the morning from my hotel NOBODY talks to each other, they all look miserable. I LOVED Montana when I worked out there, everyone is friendly, they wave to each other on the road and all of them for the most part carry guns... it is HEAVEN!! I guess it's a matter of what you are used to. Since Hazel moved here from NYC, she has frequently commented how much nicer and friendlier people are here. On the other hand, I have always found New Yorkers to be very nice (BB being the notable exception, of course)........Jake |
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Post by Robin Hood on Dec 19, 2011 0:46:15 GMT -6
OMG Jake bring her down to visit us... we can go to the local watering hole and in 10 min she will know everyone... just how we are out in the sticks....lol
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 19, 2011 9:07:38 GMT -6
On the other hand, I have always found New Yorkers to be very nice (BB being the notable exception, of course)........They probably weren't actual NY'ers then -- I don't care how long anyone's lived here, if you weren't born in NY, then you're a tourist as far as I'm concerned. |
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Dec 19, 2011 9:12:52 GMT -6
That should explain the annual tourism numbers.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 19, 2011 9:20:40 GMT -6
My experience has been that folks moving here on the long-term vacation plan often leave within about 2 years or so because it's so tough to live here. Usually, if they make it after 2 years, then they're probably here for good.
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Post by New Mama on Dec 19, 2011 9:48:51 GMT -6
I went to NY (from Detroit) for a job interview in 78. I knew I would hate it after the cab ride from Central Park to Wall Street before I even had the interview. Was offered the job but turned it down.
Got an offer in Chicago in 79 and loved it the first day and have been here ever since. Now I’m just about done with the weather here and ready to move south….just a few more years to go. But I do love Chicago and all it offers.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 19, 2011 10:02:54 GMT -6
I went to NY (from Detroit) for a job interview in 78. I knew I would hate it after the cab ride from Central Park to Wall Street before I even had the interview. I'm surprised it took that long. |
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Post by Chicago Jake on Dec 19, 2011 10:17:57 GMT -6
On the other hand, I have always found New Yorkers to be very nice (BB being the notable exception, of course)........I was mostly thinking of the NYC Hedo Club people. Who, if accents tell us anything, are pretty much indigenous to the area. |
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Dec 19, 2011 10:25:22 GMT -6
You had a lot of folks in that group that weren't NY'ers. Lots of people from the tri-state area (NJ & CT). The dearly departed Mugsy was from Long Island, I believe -- he was a NY'er in the sense that he was a resident of NY state, but not NYC.
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