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Post by innit Geezer on Mar 9, 2011 17:48:32 GMT -6
I'm starting to think I keep cars long because I dread the buying process. We're trading in our old CR-V which is thoroughly worn and in need of being recycled. I went to three different dealers yesterday in my quest for the new-er family car. I'm scoping out used late model identically equipped BMW X3's.
Three salesmen gave me trade in prices of:
$6000
$500
and "$3000 to $4000 (I'm waiting for a phone call from the dealer who inspected it today)
When I asked one particular salesmen a price on a car I wanted, he responded "it's hard to say" and some other soft spoken gibberish. The best response I had was "how do I make a buying decision on that?"
This prompted him to call a meeting with other reps and a manager, 10 minutes later they gave me a price. Why can't they do this without the charades?
They ask you silly questions like "are you ready to buy today?" and "don't you want some bottled water from the showroom snack bar... we have wi-fi" at least once every 10 or 15 minutes.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Mar 9, 2011 19:15:14 GMT -6
I know I hate it. They make you wait and wait like your time is worth nothing, and the paper work is another long process.I tell them know you get on shot so you better make it the price I am looking for" or I am out of here.
When Denice got her new IS250 in 2008 we walked out of the BMW and Mercedes dealerships. Bullshit was a mile deep. I told the guy at Lexus that he was my third stop that afternoon and I have had it with salesman's bullshit, so he got it right the first time.
Edited to add. That's why I like buying tractor. The you call the salesman and tell him what you want. He calls back, this is the price no fucking around.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Mar 9, 2011 19:36:40 GMT -6
I do my research on line before going to the dealership. I find out what I want, and what is a good price. Next I do a search for a dealer selling it for that price (they are all on-line). Then I go in, take a test drive, and say, "I'll take it." Elapsed time (after the research) is about half an hour.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Mar 9, 2011 20:42:02 GMT -6
I do my research on line before going to the dealership. I find out what I want, and what is a good price. Next I do a search for a dealer selling it for that price (they are all on-line). Then I go in, take a test drive, and say, "I'll take it." Elapsed time (after the research) is about half an hour. That's the easy way!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D I forgot to mention that I like to make those salesman work for their commission!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D |
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Mar 9, 2011 21:32:33 GMT -6
Gary, *NEVER* mention you have a car to trade until you have a set price on a new car. Do the research beforehand, like Jake, find out the dealer cost, any incentives, and bargain UP from that price, not DOWN from the MSRP.
Once you have the price, THEN (and ONLY then!) let them know you have a trade-in. Even if they ask you up front if you are going to trade, say "NO!"
You are free to ch-ch-change your mind about a trade after you have a great price on the new car.
It's often a week or two from first contact with a dealer till I finally get the car. Patience is a virtue and you have to make it a game.
Somewhere around here I have a copy of a book something like "How to Buy a Car!" and it details all the tricks they will play on you. Ultimately, he who cares less wins.
I once wore Rhonda out with prolonged negotiations over HER new car, but when we walked out of the dealership headed to another to buy there, the fellow came running after us, "Good news! My manager just approved your price!"
I *LOVE* buying new cars 'cuz I love playing the game with those fuckers! I haven't had a new car in about 10 years now and don't really need one. I've found NOT paying a car payment is very nice indeed!!
..............Bob
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Mar 10, 2011 9:22:16 GMT -6
I've found NOT paying a car payment is very nice indeed!! I agree -- I sold my car almost 4 years ago and haven't looked back since. Also, not paying car *insurance* is quite nice as well (being in The BK, I was paying >$3K/yr.). |
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Post by innit Geezer on Mar 10, 2011 18:50:58 GMT -6
First off -- I owe you guys dinner and a high-five to Bob in particular. I read his post while lying in bed this morning and he energized me! So the next time you're all in New York we have to go out. The salesmen called me late this morning and said he could only give us $2500 instead of the $3000 - $4000 he previously stated. Channeling Bob, I told him to "find the missing $1000 by deducting it off the new car price or raising my trade-in, I don't care how you decorate the invoice. Also I need the service records for the new car and the center headrest replaced, it has damage from loading the cargo area."The salesman told me there's not enough room for him in the deal to move that much but he see what he could do. He called this afternoon and said the he'll make the deal. There's very limited time left on the warranty but the car has somewhat low mileage so I'll take a chance. I still can't figure out why they insist you stay hydrated while you're in the showroom. Every 12 -15 minutes they offer you fancy bottled water.  Looking forward to loading it up with everything needed for many trips to Gunnison, except clothes of course.  |
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Post by Tex on Mar 15, 2011 19:00:47 GMT -6
My wife went to the Nissan dealership to buy a car for her sister. The salesman started that shit about having to talk with the sales manager (the room is bugged and they listen to your conversation in order to weigh your purse). She said really loudly that she had seen the salesmen out at the gay club rubbing on some other dude. He came back in a hurry. She told him that she was leaving in five minutes and to skip the crap and get to his best price. He started the banana talk so she got up and left. He showed up at her shop in half hour with a good price.
The last Ford truck I bought was a whole different deal. I knew what was about bottom dollar and the salesman was within a couple of hundred. The salesman was a friend of mine. I wrote a check and left.
The tactics depend on the situation IMHO.
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Post by Robin Hood on Mar 16, 2011 0:02:40 GMT -6
I happen to have one guy that I deal with... he has always been pretty straight with me once he figured out that I am not gonna have them waste my time.
When I bought Becky's Focus, I walked in told him what I wanted... handed him my card and walked out. He called me back in a couple hours with a decent price. I went in and was out in a half hour.
On another note, I had some time to kill a few weeks ago and decided to go look around a few lots while I waited for my wife... every time they asked me for my information I would give them the name and phone number of a customer that fucked me over a while back... ROFL
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Mar 16, 2011 21:40:56 GMT -6
My wife went to the Nissan dealership to buy a car for her sister. The salesman started that shit about having to talk with the sales manager (the room is bugged and they listen to your conversation in order to weigh your purse). She said really loudly that she had seen the salesmen out at the gay club rubbing on some other dude. He came back in a hurry. LMFAO!! That's a GOOD one I'll have to remember!! Reminds me of the time I got some bullshit phone call from someone wanting to sell us something and he asked, "May I speak to the woman of the house?" I said, "She's busy giving me a blow job at the moment. Could you call back later?" Beautiful! ;D .............Bob |
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Post by innit Geezer on Mar 19, 2011 12:14:51 GMT -6
We picked up the car late Thursday afternoon and had an unusual experience. As Geri, our son and I walked into the dealership we were immediately told to enter the conference room. As it turned out, all the salespeople and managers were just starting a surprise birthday celebration for our salesman.
Never thought I'd find myself singing Happy Birthday to car salesman.
FYI -- We bought a different car and absolutely love it, (the red was a bit too intense). I haven't been so thrilled over getting a car in years.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Mar 19, 2011 17:28:20 GMT -6
Did you at least negotiate a better price for having to sing Happy Birthday to the asshole salesman?
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Post by innit Geezer on Mar 19, 2011 19:47:54 GMT -6
No I didn't but I'm pleased with the entire transaction. The new light truck handles like a sports car and while I knew it was a good vehicle I didn't realise it was a pleasure to drive.
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