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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 16, 2010 11:08:14 GMT -6
You know how surfing/reading on the web leads one idea to another?
While researching a small town in upstate N.Y. I came across a link, that lead me to a story about jet crash, from decades ago. The accident site isn't far from my area but I only faintly recall the tragedy.
For whatever reason the story sparked my interest and I researched the few media stories of the time and found and read the entire NTSB crash investigation. It's truly a sad story and frustrating read, as the report explained simple missteps by the crew, the conclusion being needless fatalities but thankfully of only 3 people. The jet had no passengers.
Anyway, I've taken such an interest that I took the waypoints from the report and it turns out to be close to where I live. The site is in a state park and I just might take an autumn walk through the woods to see it.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Oct 16, 2010 11:35:46 GMT -6
Bring a sweater, sweetheart. It's chilly outside.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 16, 2010 11:50:54 GMT -6
It is cold and it's also opening day of deer hunting season. Even though the hunters aren't supposed to be in there, I know a couple of poachers will be.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Oct 16, 2010 12:11:09 GMT -6
It is cold and it's also opening day of deer hunting season. Even though the hunters aren't supposed to be in there, I know a couple of poachers will be. Don't wear anything tan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 16, 2010 12:20:00 GMT -6
Nor a chicken suit. Those bastards will shoot anything to break the boredom or to practice.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 16, 2010 16:56:47 GMT -6
Avoid wearing anything with big concentric circles alternating contrasting colors
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 18, 2010 13:39:13 GMT -6
Does anyone know what exactly -5 vertical g's means? This was the rate of fall. As best I can tell it's a rate of 413 mph.
I didn't get a chance to go up there yet but I spoke to someone that did years ago. It was part of a guided walking/hiking tour.
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Post by nolaflacav on Oct 18, 2010 14:09:02 GMT -6
There have been 2 plane crashes at the New Orleans airport. One happened on landing in 1967 shortly after we moved there. The second was in 1982 and occurred during take off in bad weather.
I was working as an insurance adjuster at the time and handled two claims as a result of the latter crash. One claim was for lost luggage from an insured that missed his connecting flight.
The second was for a house that was directly in the path of the plane crash. As a result of that claim I had to visit the crash site just two weeks after if occured. It was a very strange feeling.
I could see where the plane started to clip and tear up trees two blocks before our insured's house. And then two blocks past the house was where the plane began to make impact with other houses.
I was surprised at how tight the debris field was for such a major accident. I was glad to be out of there after a couple of hours. I could not do that everyday for a living.
If you drive through the neighborhood today there are zero signs that a plan crash ever happened 28 years ago.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 18, 2010 14:17:22 GMT -6
A "g" is a measure of acceleration, not speed. "1g" is equal to Earths gravity which is 32 feet per second squared, which means your speed is increasing at a rate of 32 feet per second PER SECOND.
The negative simply indicates the direction (downward), but the -5 g's is HUGE, and means that they were in close to full powered flight right into the ground (that is their speed was increasing at the rate of 160 feet per second PER second).
For comparison, 45 miles per hour is 66 feet per second, so that plane was going about 100 mph faster every second... on the plus side, you wouldnt feel a thing since pain signals travel about 60 miles per hour through the body, your brain would be a grease spot before and pain signals reached it.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Oct 18, 2010 14:43:55 GMT -6
... on the plus side, you wouldnt feel a thing since pain signals travel about 60 miles per hour through the body, your brain would be a grease spot before and pain signals reached it.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 19, 2010 5:04:28 GMT -6
What can I say, Im just a happy person.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 19, 2010 7:56:57 GMT -6
Hey -- Thanks Gordon for taking the time to explain. The report said they fell from 24,800 feet in 83 seconds. I thought (and misunderstood g's) that an actual speed was 413mph -- given my last math instruction (junior year at U of Miami) As you can see, I spent lot's of time at the university pool
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 19, 2010 7:57:53 GMT -6
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 19, 2010 8:26:11 GMT -6
Hey -- Thanks Gordon for taking the time to explain. The report said they fell from 24,800 feet in 83 seconds. I thought (and misunderstood g's) that an actual speed was 413mph -- given my last math instruction (junior year at U of Miami) As you can see, I spent lot's of time at the university pool Best of all, Beeb didnt "Red Card" me for being helpful.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 19, 2010 8:31:23 GMT -6
Is there any chance you can tutor me at H2? I'll bring a scientific calculator, two number 2 pencils and of course gum for everybody, if by chance you catch me chewing gum.
Or is this strictly going to be a party?
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 19, 2010 8:34:14 GMT -6
I will try Gary, but I limit technology on the beach to pebbles for counting and stick/sand for drawing diagrams... between bocce ball intrusions of course (its difficult to diagram the Pythagorean Theorem with wooden balls being thrown at you)
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Post by innit Geezer on Nov 22, 2010 13:48:41 GMT -6
I went up to the location yesterday and with good maps landed right on the site of the crash. I also took pictures using geo-tagging. These can be read using EXIF software programs. I solved two mystery's, first, bears do sh*t in the woods and the point of impact.
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