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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 1, 2010 10:42:50 GMT -6
I've been detailing and primping steadily on my old GTO. In northern New Jersey this weekend is a Pontiac Oakland Show. Normally I just enjoying relaxing at cruise in style car shows but I'm looking forward to seeing how this places in a judged Pontiac field. It's in great shape and very original including the paint. Compared to a restored car, this example seems like a 5 year old used car.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 1, 2010 10:47:23 GMT -6
Coming across the Kingston-Rhinecliff Bridge this past spring.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 1, 2010 17:46:22 GMT -6
GARY look out there is some guy in the back seat taking your picture.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Oct 1, 2010 21:16:49 GMT -6
That's a camera? I thought it was a Palm Pre ...
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 4, 2010 13:40:32 GMT -6
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 4, 2010 13:48:06 GMT -6
Check out the ornate dash of this 1959 Bonneville, this was the period of rocket and space fascination. Lots of chrome and stainless. Even the carpet had bits of metallic woven in.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 4, 2010 13:57:41 GMT -6
One of my favorites was this 1962 Grand Prix. It's a rare car and this one was extra nice with a 4-speed.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 4, 2010 14:02:47 GMT -6
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 4, 2010 14:10:33 GMT -6
I didn't overlook a thing and I couldn't have prepared more, but the car didn't even "place." Oh well, maybe next year.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 4, 2010 14:13:22 GMT -6
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 5, 2010 13:03:18 GMT -6
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 5, 2010 13:38:00 GMT -6
Nice chrome
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Oct 5, 2010 13:39:25 GMT -6
That come with a stick shift?
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 5, 2010 13:41:24 GMT -6
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 5, 2010 13:53:35 GMT -6
The Pontiac Show was important to me and I wanted to see if anyone was paying attention. It took a picture of Mr. Creamsicle to jump start my thread.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 5, 2010 13:55:45 GMT -6
I thought showing a 45 year old car with 33,000 miles, un-restored with it's second set of tires from 1968 would have been a "lay-up" for at least third place, but I got nada'.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 5, 2010 14:31:05 GMT -6
From looking at the competition, where would you make ch-ch-changes?
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Oct 5, 2010 14:34:26 GMT -6
The gills.
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Post by nolaflacav on Oct 5, 2010 15:09:27 GMT -6
Maybe you had points deducted for those stains on the back seat.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 5, 2010 15:36:57 GMT -6
From looking at the competition, where would you make ch-ch-changes? I wouldn't make any ch-ch-changes, the car is a time capsule. Immaculate in everyway. First place went to the organizer of the show. Second place went to his assistant., but the judging was done by the people who entered.
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 5, 2010 15:38:40 GMT -6
Nola, there's no stains in this car. The backseat was never used.
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Post by nolaflacav on Oct 5, 2010 15:45:15 GMT -6
Just out of curiosity what is the market value today if you were inclined to sell?
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 5, 2010 17:19:34 GMT -6
Just out of curiosity what is the market value today if you were inclined to sell? It's difficult to estimate given the economy, lack of credit availability and the softness in the collector car market, but a rough guess is $50_000
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Post by nolaflacav on Oct 5, 2010 19:18:59 GMT -6
Just out of curiosity what is the market value today if you were inclined to sell? It's difficult to estimate given the economy, lack of credit availability and the softness in the collector car market, but a rough guess is $50_000 I have several clients who have various collector cars. I find it interesting that every year when the policy renews and we have a discussion about value, it is always going up. And I agree with you that there are multiple factors that are working together to suppress values. I am thinking it is pure ego that drives them to continually up the value. This is probably especially true since the insurance premium is so incredibly small and only marginally influenced by the increased value.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 6, 2010 5:20:48 GMT -6
It's difficult to estimate given the economy, lack of credit availability and the softness in the collector car market, but a rough guess is $50_000 I have several clients who have various collector cars. I find it interesting that every year when the policy renews and we have a discussion about value, it is always going up. And I agree with you that there are multiple factors that are working together to suppress values. I am thinking it is pure ego that drives them to continually up the value. This is probably especially true since the insurance premium is so incredibly small and only marginally influenced by the increased value.Sounds like a great business opportunity
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Post by nolaflacav on Oct 6, 2010 6:35:01 GMT -6
I have several clients who have various collector cars. I find it interesting that every year when the policy renews and we have a discussion about value, it is always going up. And I agree with you that there are multiple factors that are working together to suppress values. I am thinking it is pure ego that drives them to continually up the value. This is probably especially true since the insurance premium is so incredibly small and only marginally influenced by the increased value.Sounds like a great business opportunity Yeah. It reminds me of the old SNL skit about the bank that makes ch-ch-change.....we make it up in volume
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 6, 2010 15:22:02 GMT -6
It's difficult to estimate given the economy, lack of credit availability and the softness in the collector car market, but a rough guess is $50_000 I have several clients who have various collector cars. I find it interesting that every year when the policy renews and we have a discussion about value, it is always going up. And I agree with you that there are multiple factors that are working together to suppress values. I am thinking it is pure ego that drives them to continually up the value. This is probably especially true since the insurance premium is so incredibly small and only marginally influenced by the increased value. Insurance carriers of collector cars require vehicle use limitations and specifics on it's storage. They also require a series of photographs prior to approval. As far as the car is concerned. Any customizing or personal taste alteration usually results in decreased value (big time).
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Post by innit Geezer on Nov 1, 2010 15:25:44 GMT -6
I had quite an experience yesterday.
I took that collector car of mine to a show Sunday. When I pulled into the driveway coming home, the right front wheel fell off the car (NO damage). The wheel bearings had seized, creating massive heat which caused the spindle to snap off (the main structure the wheel /brakes assemble to).
Amazing that I drove 65mph for 45 minutes and the collapse didn't happen on the highway.
Tomorrow I have a spindle coming from a Pontiac only salvage yard in California.
One more thing to add to the pile before heading to Jamaica.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Nov 1, 2010 15:39:43 GMT -6
Tomorrow I have a spindle coming from a Pontiac only salvage yard in California. Ironically, Pontiac itself is now one big salvage yard.
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