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Post by Robin Hood on Oct 5, 2005 8:49:12 GMT -6
Gee, I wonder witch board I like better, been a member "over there" for little over a year, been a member here for 3 1/2 months, and have more posts here already!! DennyP Member Status: Member Member Number: 6944 Registered: [glow=red,2,300]September 11, 2004[/glow] Posts: [glow=red,2,300]105[/glow] Email Address: robinhood@onsitesolutionsinc.com Location: Central IL Occupation: IT Systems Administrator (Computer Geek) Homepage: www.onsitesolutionsinc.comInterests: Photography, Archery, SCUBA Diving AIM ID: robinhoodarcher1 TNMC Name: robinhood Email: robinhood@onsitesolutionsinc.com Web Site: www.onsitesolutionsinc.comBirthday: 10/31/1972 Age: 32 Sex: Male Location: Central IL Posts: [glow=red,2,300]114[/glow] Karma: 12 Date Registered: [glow=red,2,300]Jun 18, 2005, 4:22pm[/glow] Instant Messengers AIM: robinhoodarcher1 YIM: robinhood10311972
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Post by Robin Hood on Oct 5, 2005 8:51:12 GMT -6
AND, I have 12 Karma points ;D
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Post by sabrina1 on Oct 5, 2005 18:39:00 GMT -6
I know that this will probably get me big smite points, however I do hold some loyalty to DennyP.
He has been nothing but kind to us and always looks out for us when we book with him when we have problems (few, but have had some). Yes, I agree that the board has been tighter lately but do agree with the posts that now he is operating his own business, he has changed. But remember that it is his livelihood. He has to be more careful now.
Forums like this are good because folks can post things that are now not acceptable to dennyp. However, I will always check in once a day to see what is going on over there. That board (along with the MD/DC/VA Hedo group) were what got us to go on our first trip...
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Post by Chicago Jake on Oct 5, 2005 18:50:35 GMT -6
I agree with you, Sabrina. Denny is a fine fellow, he just gets some good-natured ribbing over here, just like we all give to each other! At least, I hope it is good natured. Right, gang?.....Jake
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Post by Robin Hood on Oct 5, 2005 18:53:28 GMT -6
I never said I didn't like Denny, I just feel much more at home here, I can only stand reading the same shit over and over. I still check in over there, but I don't usually give it more than a passing glance. I do like his trip reports section. I have never booked with Denny, but I have heard good things. I have my favorite TA that I use all the time, and she beats the pants off of Denny on pricing, I don't know how they do it, but they do. The worst she has ever done, is match the price, and her service is second to none.
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Post by Dan on Oct 6, 2005 7:07:23 GMT -6
I agree - he has a business to run now, he wants his board run in his own fashion, and that is his right. I get perturbed at times when he nukes a post - but that's a personal problem with ME, not him.
I too like it here, even if I mostly lurk, because the posts are more lively and spirited.
Rock on!
D
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Post by Kawaii Kaiju on Oct 6, 2005 8:58:52 GMT -6
I can only stand reading the same shit over and over. And you still come to THIS board? just kidding Zilla (who is just feeling the need to sound off today evidently)
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Oct 6, 2005 16:16:08 GMT -6
Yes, I agree that the board has been tighter lately but do agree with the posts that now he is operating his own business, he has changed. But remember that it is his livelihood. He has to be more careful now. Why? No really....would some smart person please explain to me WHY everyone is saying this? ?? WHY does he have to be careful?? When was the last time you heard of ANY owner of an internet bulletin board/message board gettin' screwed because of what someone said? And, does DaddyP think those of us goin' to Hedo are SO STUPID that we don't understand the nature of message boards??? Am I the only person in the WHOLE FUCKIN' WORLD to ever see those simple words, "The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of the owner??" DaddyP opened that Katrina Discussion section, then promptly NUKED anything political about it, when THAT was the WHOLE FUCKIN' STORY!!!! Sorry, but I've been posting "over there" since the 1990s and the ch-ch-changes I've seen recently are (IMHO, and no one elses!!! )short of mentally disturbing. Of course, I am biased. I got canned for darring to stick up for the US of A against a Socio-Marxist American Hating BASTARD who daily spewed vile and filth against everything my Country stands for!!! And while I'm at it, FUCK YOU TOO, LOU!!!! ;D Dang.....ain't this place great??? ;D
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Post by Captain Gary on Oct 6, 2005 16:27:53 GMT -6
Bob, Not claiming to be a smart person, but another board I frequent at www.boatered.com has VERY specific rules about what can be posted. The board has so much activity I can't find the specific post right now, but, the owner explained in pretty explicit detail the liability of someone that runs a message board *with* a business. He also mentioned the amount of money he pays each month for liability insurance, and it wasn't chicken feed. There must be some assholes out there with nothing better to do than file lawsuits against these people.
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Oct 6, 2005 17:41:36 GMT -6
Are you talking about this, Gary?? -------------------------------------------- Forum Guidelines By entering these forums, you agree not to: * Violate any local, state, national or international laws; * Post material that infringes the intellectual property rights, including without limitation, trademark, copyright and trade secret rights, of others; * Post material that infringes the privacy or publicity rights of others; * Post information that you know to be false or misleading; * Post material that is unlawful, obscene, defamatory, threatening, harassing, abusive, hateful, tortuous, libelous, vulgar, invasive of another's privacy, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable or embarrassing to a third party, as determined by Boatered in its sole discretion; * Post chain letters, junk mail, pyramid schemes, spam or other forms of advertisements or solicitations; * Collect or store personal data about others; * Impersonate another person, whether a third party or a Boatered representative or moderator; or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity; * Engage in any conduct that limits any other person from using or enjoying the Interactive Areas; * Engage in any conduct or express views that, in BoaterEd's sole opinion, exposes BoaterEd or any of its affiliates, customers or suppliers to any liability or detriment of any type. * Engage in any form of advertising activity. This includes the use of URL's or company names in posts that link to sites that are commercial in nature, or are of some benefit to you, or are controlled by you, or are competitive in nature to BoaterEd, Inc. and/or its affiliates and the use of any URLs and/or company names, addresses, phone numbers in the "signature" and/or text. * Material posted on this site is the property of and copyrighted by BoaterEd, Inc. and may not be copied, printed, duplicated, published or distributed with the express written permission of BoaterEd, Inc. * BoaterEd reserves the right to restrict the access to the Forum of any individual whom, in our sole opinion, is violating the Forum Policies. This includes Forum Subscribers whose access may be limited to subscriber features only. ------------------------------------------------------ I think pretty much everyone of those "rules" have been broken here. Jake, you are FUCKED!!! .............Bob
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Post by Captain Gary on Oct 6, 2005 17:51:35 GMT -6
That's it Bob.
I'm trying to find something in this list that we aren't guilty of...
I think we may safely say that we haven't *intentionally* violated any local, state, federal, or international laws :-)
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Post by jdmcowan on Oct 6, 2005 18:04:42 GMT -6
I think we may safely say that we haven't *intentionally* violated any local, state, federal, or international laws :-) I wouldn't bet on it. Jeremy
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Oct 6, 2005 18:05:13 GMT -6
Gary, you just prompted me to spend a little time doing some legal research on this issue. I still stand behind what I said earlier.
But, to be sure, there *IS* a difference in posting something like "Gary, YOU FUCK! That opinion is IDIOTIC!" verses posting something like, "DennyP violates federal law by engaging in unfair price fixing!"
One only violates the sensitivities of a person, while the other violates the commercial money-making right of a business.
So again, I can find NO incidence where a business, such as Denny's, was harmed due to someone posting strong opinions regarding politics, etc.
OTOH, having a business can become a deep pocket for other allegations, though I still see little problem with message boards in that respect unless you do something like I mentioned above.
................Bob
Edited to add:
The bottom line with most any lawsuit is the need to show *DAMAGES*!!!
While someone may not like what I did, unless they can show some real damages from it, they are unlikely to prevail in any lawsuit.
With that said, how me calling someone a fuck-head damages Denny is beyond me.
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Post by Ozmale on Oct 6, 2005 18:27:33 GMT -6
Bob,
I don't know how it works up your way, but down here (and from my very limited knowledge of these things) - If I operate some kind of medium (eg newspaper but this does not exclude bulletin boards) that does not slander or defame someone but acts as a medium for that slander/defamation then I can be held liable, irrespective of any disclaimers!
Now of course just saying "fred is a fucking idiot" would not qualify as defamation...
Regards Ozmale
For those who are counting these things PS Only had one Hedo booking - Denny was very helpful and put up with my several attempts over 3 years to get there! No complaints
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Post by sabrina1 on Oct 6, 2005 20:04:12 GMT -6
Gary, you just prompted me to spend a little time doing some legal research on this issue. I still stand behind what I said earlier. But, to be sure, there *IS* a difference in posting something like "Gary, YOU FUCK! That opinion is IDIOTIC!" verses posting something like, "DennyP violates federal law by engaging in unfair price fixing!" One only violates the sensitivities of a person, while the other violates the commercial money-making right of a business. So again, I can find NO incidence where a business, such as Denny's, was harmed due to someone posting strong opinions regarding politics, etc. OTOH, having a business can become a deep pocket for other allegations, though I still see little problem with message boards in that respect unless you do something like I mentioned above. ................Bob Edited to add: The bottom line with most any lawsuit is the need to show *DAMAGES*!!! While someone may not like what I did, unless they can show some real damages from it, they are unlikely to prevail in any lawsuit. With that said, how me calling someone a fuck-head damages Denny is beyond me. I am not a lawyer, however my paranoid mind can think of a few scenarios. Look at the boards this way. Even with the "opinions not necessarily that of..." it is kind of like parking in a gated, patrolled parking lot that has a sign "not responsible for lost or stolen items." Guess what? The sign isn't going to do much. It is only a deterrent for about 95% of the folks who's car may have been broken into on the property. A sign does not remove liability. NOTE: This is a totally made up story to demonstrate how a posting on the board could get out of control.A Guest Y posts: "This was my first trip to Hedo and I booked with D****P and signed up for his group. Well on my second day, Guest X (who was a registered member of the group) raped me." Liability? Probably not. Loss of reputation and business? Yes. Well Guest X goes on the board and sees this statement and 50 responses about what a terrible person he/she is. The reply is "I did not rape Guest Y. Guest Y consented. Guest Y's partner found out about it and it got out of control. How can you let people on this board accuse me of something I did not do?" Hmm, getting interesting. In the meantime, Guest X's partner gets on the board and sees all these posts. Well Guest X's partner had no idea that this had happened and now his/her personal business is all over the boards without his/her knowledge. See how this can get ugly? Again, I am not a lawyer. Is there liability? I don't know. However I can see how this fictitious situation could be very uncomfortable for the small business owner because of his message board.
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Post by Lady Irie on Oct 6, 2005 20:41:40 GMT -6
So again, I can find NO incidence where a business, such as Denny's, was harmed due to someone posting strong opinions regarding politics, etc. I think maybe I see something here. You are right Bob, I don't think you will find any business, such as Denny's, that harmed due to someone posting strong opinions regarding politics. However, I wonder if he is concerned about potential future business, and trying to keep things in "neutral waters" so to speak so that potential customer won't get pissed off at whatever, and book with another TA. Yes, people are that stupid. Those are numbers you can't see. The Boards were a toy for Denny, prior to him setting up shop, so he probably didn't care if people got into it. If you recall, the only time he ever stopped an interaction is basically when it did get cut-throat personal. Perhaps now, he looks at each registrant as potential business and is having a knee jerk reaction with his censoring and when the novelty wears off, it will relax a bit. Something else I wonder about is now that he represents "Go Classy", how much of this reflects on whatever image/relationship, etc. they have had over the years with people is now put on Denny's plate and he has to accept it, or not do business with them. Edited to add: The bottom line with most any lawsuit is the need to show *DAMAGES*!!! Absolutely, however isn't it true that just to be named in a lawsuit, even if you are totally innocent, and you know the courts would find the same, to defend yourself it could cost $10,000 right out of the gate? The cost of defense could be what he may be afraid of. C'mon, you know people can sue for anything they want! LOL
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 7, 2005 5:52:37 GMT -6
Bob said..
Bob... any chance you take a medical deduction of your membership fees here for the blood pressure reduction that results?? ;D
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 7, 2005 5:55:20 GMT -6
That's it Bob. I'm trying to find something in this list that we aren't guilty of... I think we may safely say that we haven't *intentionally* violated any local, state, federal, or international laws :-) With BB just being here, are you kidding?? That in itself is a crime against humanity, let alone those links he posts.
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Post by Captain Gary on Oct 7, 2005 6:07:58 GMT -6
Bob, Not a lawyer, only slept at a Holiday Inn Express this year.... Take a look at www.eff.org/Privacy/Anonymity/cyberslapp.phpAlso, www.eff.org in general has quite a bit of info re: this. No time right now to look for more details, but looks like I will this weekend. Three to Five inches of rain predicted.
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Post by Bob who forgot to log in on Oct 7, 2005 21:14:45 GMT -6
See how this can get ugly? I DID NOT have sex with THAT WOMAN!
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 9, 2005 8:16:43 GMT -6
But, to be sure, there *IS* a difference in posting something like "Gary, YOU FUCK! That opinion is IDIOTIC!" verses posting something like, "DennyP violates federal law by engaging in unfair price fixing!" What about: Gary, YOU FUCK! That opinion is IDIOTIC, DennyP violates federal law by engaging in unfair price fixing, his mother wears Army boots and that Beastiality web link is great!
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Post by Cherbunny on Oct 9, 2005 14:13:37 GMT -6
his mother wears Army boots Hey, HEY! I resemble that remark. And there is not a damn thing wrong with a woman in combat boots. Especially if they are spit-shined and she has on nothing else.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 9, 2005 14:34:31 GMT -6
his mother wears Army boots Hey, HEY! I resemble that remark. And there is not a damn thing wrong with a woman in combat boots. Especially if they are spit-shined and she has on nothing else. - Colonial Jessup ;D ;D ;D
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 9, 2005 14:54:32 GMT -6
his mother wears Army boots Hey, HEY! I resemble that remark. And there is not a damn thing wrong with a woman in combat boots. Especially if they are spit-shined and she has on nothing else. Dam, I thought you might see this! Actually a woman just in combat boots is erotic.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Oct 9, 2005 14:55:35 GMT -6
So, in other words, those female officers aren't saying, "At ease", they're saying, "A tease"?
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Post by innit Geezer on Oct 9, 2005 17:18:25 GMT -6
So, in other words, those female officers aren't saying, "At ease", they're saying, "A tease"? Thank goodness it's you BB. Those girls were relentless with your persona. You better check your credit cards and bank statements, the guilty party is talking about a private charter nude cruise.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Oct 9, 2005 21:35:16 GMT -6
Credit cards? Bank statements? You flatter me.
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Post by Hazelita on Oct 10, 2005 5:12:25 GMT -6
How did BB steal Renee's member ID? I didn't think two members could have the same name at the same time. Oh well, I guess she had it coming ... LOL! Edited to add: Never mind ... I figured out how BB did it.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Oct 10, 2005 6:16:10 GMT -6
OH THIS COULD BE FUN!!!
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Oct 10, 2005 8:26:14 GMT -6
Oh well, I guess she had it coming ... You didn't really think I'd let her get away with a serious crime like Identity Theft, did you?
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