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Post by Tex on Apr 17, 2005 19:18:40 GMT -6
The most effective punishment for a business is taking your patronage elsewhere.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Apr 17, 2005 19:43:07 GMT -6
Joe - Do you have a Wal-Mart? Not in the city where I live. That is what I do with the Wal-Mart in the next city down the road. We just don't go there. Joe.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Apr 17, 2005 20:27:29 GMT -6
GO'T Damn Jake...DON'T piss Lou off! .............Bob Yeah Jake, Bob and I reserve the right to do that> ;D ;D Lou if you see this, just joking. ;D Joe.
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Apr 17, 2005 20:53:49 GMT -6
Bob if'n you need such in order to feel secure...you gots to be the most insecure person ever born. As Bill Maher said Friday nite (after blasting the lame, weak Democrats) "The Republicans are in complete control and drunk with power......." ...and you are insecure? ? I know HB.....ain't it a bitch? In a few years, we'll be watching our backside! Till then....... TOODLEOOOOOOO! ;D ...........Bob
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Post by DT on Apr 18, 2005 8:06:34 GMT -6
Yup, I eat in restaurants all the time. If I didn't like something. I don't complain. I never go back there. It works for me.
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Apr 20, 2005 14:42:09 GMT -6
Life was a lot more fun when there were more blowjobs in the White House ... Monica? That you?
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Post by Carla on Apr 20, 2005 19:38:41 GMT -6
Ohmigod! Bukkake, you keep me in stiches!
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Post by Irish Eyes on Apr 20, 2005 22:21:11 GMT -6
The most effective punishment for a business is taking your patronage elsewhere. . . . unless there is no where else to go? There are many communities in this here country where Wal-Mart is IT. Of course there used to be little pharmacies where the pharmacist knew your name and your allergies, and the grocer knew how you liked your cold cuts sliced and the news guy knew what papers and magazines you liked --- gone! Wal-mart, and Costco, etc. have eaten up the options - put them dead out of business, so one has NO options, other then going out of town? Easy enough for me, I own a car and live in a very dense state, but this goes to the neediest - those who live in rural areas (which are the reddest states)(where if the Vatican Roulette failed, further options are nill, heck if you couldn't find a ride to get pills, how can you find a ride out of state for an abortion?)(And, yes, these poor benighted fools end up on welfare). Yes, capitalism can control a community! And hate it for its results!!! God Bless America! If you will, Joe, Jake, respond to this message not in across the board platitudes (as is your wont) but by adressing what your politics means for the average person, in this case a woman in South Dakota who can't buy birth control (if she could even afford it), being a bartender in a hootenanny frequented by fellow souls without a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out?
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Post by Chicago Jake on Apr 20, 2005 22:27:33 GMT -6
Sorry, Irish Whisky, but I believe in the free market society. If all that is left in your community is a Wal-Mart, it is because YOU, the consumers, have chosen to shop there and let the Ma and Pa stores go out of business. You made your choice, so please don't come whining to me when you don't like the consequences. It's called personal responsibility....Jake
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Post by Harrybutt on Apr 21, 2005 5:25:59 GMT -6
I see your point. It was strictly a consumer choice between the large stores and variety of a Wal-mart and the small Ma&Pa store. The fact a Wal-mart is like a tsunami for the Ma&Pa folks means nothing. That it is literally impossible in any enviroment for a Ma&Pa store to compete with a Wal-mart regarding prices, etc...has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Post by Tex on Apr 21, 2005 6:12:00 GMT -6
I live in a small town (actually near a small town) with a Wal Mart. There are also several other pharmacies to choose from. Irish, I thought you were from the NYC Metro area. Are you going to educate us folks out here in the sticks about small town life?
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Post by Tex on Apr 21, 2005 6:19:22 GMT -6
...in this case a woman in South Dakota who can't buy birth control (if she could even afford it), being a bartender in a hootenanny frequented by fellow souls without a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out? A "hootenanny"? Someone has been watching too many Green Acres reruns. BTW, if you don't have a pot or a window, and that bothers you, perhaps you should work a few more hours and hang around the "hootenanny" a little less.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Apr 21, 2005 6:27:59 GMT -6
.....The fact a Wal-mart is like a tsunami for the Ma&Pa folks means nothing. That it is literally impossible in any enviroment for a Ma&Pa store to compete with a Wal-mart regarding prices, etc...has absolutely nothing to do with it. So, what are you saying, that Wal-Mart should raise their prices? You'd be the first one to scream that they were gouging the poor folks. Get a grip, Harry.....Jake
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Post by Carla on Apr 21, 2005 6:46:57 GMT -6
I am again agreeing with Jake on this one. It boils down to personal responsibility. Why do folks expect corporate entities to be more accountable to them than they are to themselves? A corporation's goal is to maximize profits. Not make a few bucks. MAXIMIZE profits. If that means killing the competition, well so be it. I am not saying this is fair, but what in this world is? The consumer needs to take some responsibility as well. For it is the consumer's choice to shop at Walmart because of the lower prices rather than go to the Mom&Pop shop that was there long before Walmart was. So when the Mom&Pop shops are finally gone, how can the consumer bitch about lack of choices? You made the choice that lead to lack of choices. Why, because Walmart is easier and cheaper. They've got everything under one roof. Don't get mad at them for being good businesses. Be mad at yourself for allowing them to come in and rule!
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Post by That English Guy on Apr 21, 2005 7:58:25 GMT -6
You're right Carla, its the consumers themselves that close down the Mom and Pop stores by shopping at Walmart and the like when they come to town. But once any choice of where to shop is gone then that cannot be in the best interests of the consumer. We have a growing problem here with an ever shrinking choice of where to buy petrol (gas). A few years back our biggest supermarket chains all started building gas stations by the entrance/exit to the parking lots, all selling their own branded petrol cheaper than petrol stations in the area. Pretty soon everyone was getting their petrol at the supermarket and all the local petrol stations begun to shut down. Now to get petrol I must either head out of town and to where there are no supermarkets and petrol stations still exist, or suffer lines of up to 10 minutes, and often longer, to fill up the car. Last week the petrol station at our nearest supermarket was closed (I don't know why) when I needed petrol and there was chaos at the nearest one 5 miles away, so I ended up driving another 15 miles of my journey before I filled up. The Walmarts of this world may bring us everything under one roof at competitive prices, but as I said, that is not always in our best interests.
Simon
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Apr 21, 2005 9:54:48 GMT -6
... I own a car and live in a very dense state ... Mmm, and you seem to prove that every time you post.
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Apr 21, 2005 15:45:21 GMT -6
Mmm, and you seem to prove that every time you post. ROF'LMAO! ;D ;D
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Post by Tex on Apr 21, 2005 16:54:25 GMT -6
Mmm, and you seem to prove that every time you post. That was priceless.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Apr 21, 2005 20:02:55 GMT -6
how can the consumer bitch about lack of choices? He/she can't but does anyhow. They bitch about price of an independent store, but go to Wal-Mart anyhow to buy the items, then bitch about Wal-Mart taking over the town. The independent can not compete with Wal-Mart or any large chain. There buying power is unreal. In most cases they can by an item from a supplier then sell it cheaper than an independent can even buy it for. When you by by the train load instead of by the box, the discounts run real deep. Wal-mart sucks. Joe.
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Post by Harrybutt on Apr 21, 2005 20:34:56 GMT -6
No jake, That ain't what I'm is sayin. You may be a "conservative", butt that one came from left field...
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Post by Merlot Joe on Apr 21, 2005 23:18:59 GMT -6
Mmm, and you seem to prove that every time you post. Way to go BB. Joe.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Apr 24, 2005 23:12:37 GMT -6
No jake, That ain't what I'm is sayin. You may be a "conservative", butt that one came from left field... Okay, then I give up. What the fuck ARE you saying?.....Jake
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Post by Merlot Joe on Apr 24, 2005 23:17:10 GMT -6
Okay, then I give up. What the fuck ARE you saying?.....Jake Jake, If he knew, he would be dangerous and then we would have to shoot him, and he ain't worth the price of the bullet. ;D ;D Joe.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Apr 24, 2005 23:36:42 GMT -6
Hey....what the Hell happened to Carla? All of a sudden, she is a Guest. Joe, did you scare her into pulling the plug like LOU did? Or was it Bob?? ?? ??......Jake
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Post by That English Guy on Apr 25, 2005 4:57:57 GMT -6
Hey....what the Hell happened to Carla? All of a sudden, she is a Guest. Joe, did you scare her into pulling the plug like LOU did? Or was it Bob?? ?? ??......Jake OOPS!!! Simon
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Post by Merlot Joe on Apr 25, 2005 11:50:47 GMT -6
Hey....what the Hell happened to Carla? All of a sudden, she is a Guest. Joe, did you scare her into pulling the plug like LOU did? Or was it Bob?? ?? ??......Jake I had nothing to do with it. Hey why in the fucking hell are you blaming me? This all that I have said to her lately I don't think that would make her leave? Don't blame me for Lou either, he/she can dish it out but definitely can not take it. Proven fact, no doubt about it. Joe.
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Post by Harrybutt on Apr 25, 2005 11:58:04 GMT -6
Okay, then I give up. What the fuck ARE you saying?.....Jake Here: ...it is literally impossible in any enviroment for a Ma&Pa store to compete with a Wal-mart regarding prices, etc...has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Apr 25, 2005 12:02:59 GMT -6
Here: ...it is literally impossible in any enviroment for a Ma&Pa store to compete with a Wal-mart regarding prices, . So what's we new, everyone already knows that. Joe.
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Post by Harrybutt on Apr 25, 2005 12:10:50 GMT -6
So what's we new, everyone already knows that. Joe. Then it's not a totally consumer "choice" thing....and you all new it
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Post by Merlot Joe on Apr 25, 2005 12:16:14 GMT -6
Then it's not a totally consumer "choice" thing....and you all new it I knew it, don't really know about everyone else but I am sure they have a clue. 99% of the people that shop at Wal-mart do it for price and no other reason. That simple to figure out. When we go to Wal-Mart it is because no one else carries the item and Wal-mart is the only one that does. How about you Hb, why do you go to Wal-Mart? Joe.
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