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Post by Ozmale on Nov 8, 2005 3:10:11 GMT -6
OK, I know there are a few Star Trek fans lurking around here so I thought I'd pose this question. ST: Enterprise finished some time ago but I had to buy the DVDs to watch it - hence the reason for the seeming delay in asking this.
On a whole I enjoyed the show but I am not going to get into debates about which ST was best here - lets just say that Enterprise a hell of a lot better than some of the other crap we have to put up with on free to air TV. (I don't have cable cause there ain't no cable and I don't have satellite cause I refuse to pay Foxtel $80 per month for their service - I spend that on DVDs instead)
Anyway back to the question: Did the ratings for ST: Enterprise start to drop when they changed the theme song for the 3rd season. Now it wasn't a big ch-ch-change. A musically inclined person could probably explain the ch-ch-change better than me. Whilst the ch-ch-change was small it changed the theme song from something I really liked to something that sucked.
Anyone agree with me or am I just really weird......?
Ozmale
General Nutcase and collector of ST series on DVD, having all of them but 2 or 3 seasons of Voyager (which I will have soon). Got all of Voyager on VHS but video tape sucks for quality..
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Nov 8, 2005 5:16:52 GMT -6
The ratings dropped in the 3rd season, but not because of the theme. It was the year long, TEDIOUS, story line that killed the ratings, and in my opinion the show. Season 4 was the best of the bunch, but by then it was too late.
Bigger issue, ratings wise, in my opinion was the selection of the UPN network for broadcast. UPN is the smallest of the over air networks here, basically hitting only the larger markets, but even worse was that UPN refused to occupy satellite distribution. So if you were not in a large TV market you were 'shit outta luck', OR you had to get creative.
I watched all 4 seasons via internet downloads, then burnt the mp3 file to video CD format which was playable in my DVD player.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Nov 8, 2005 10:08:12 GMT -6
Oz, I don't think the ratings were EVER very good for Enterprise. I don't think it had anything to do with the song or the season-long story arc. I agree with Gordon that UPN was the wrong venue for the show, and that was the main problem. But also, I think the world was just "Star Trekked Out" so to speak. Not ME, mind you, but the bulk of the casual fans who keep a network show going. And there was so much other science fiction available at the time, unlike the 1960s when the original Trek was all we had going. (Well, that and "Lost In Space" but let's be serious.)
The song was always controversial. When the show first came out, there was lots of message-board chatter about how it sucked: too pop, possessing lyrics, etc. Too radical for many fans. I kinda liked it, myself. When they jazzed it up in the third season, I kinda liked that too. I also liked the long arc with the Xindi. But then, I guess I like anything related to Star Trek. Well, except for Voyager, which totally sucked.
That's not an either/or question!!......Jake
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Post by Merlot Joe on Nov 8, 2005 11:33:33 GMT -6
Jake is right. The program never really got it's feet off the ground. The ratings were never high. I agree with Jake and Gordon, UPN was not the right place, Syndication of it would have been better,.
There is the one show still on Andromeda with Kevin (the former Hercules dude) that I think sucks, but they syndicated it and it is still in production. They should have done the same with Enterprise.
I like the song either way, the original version or the newer version. I used some of the lyrics form it in a speech that I made at our Lions Clubs Convention 3 years ago. The words worked perfectly into the theme that I was trying to present. Hey I got a standing ovation.
I liked the series and miss it. Hopefully something new in the Star Trek world will come out again in a year or two.
Joe.
Joe
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Nov 8, 2005 12:04:05 GMT -6
I liked the series and miss it. Hopefully something new in the Star Trek world will come out again in a year or two. Joe. Joe Star Trek Sulu: Voyages of the USS Faierie Queen ?? |
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Post by Merlot Joe on Nov 8, 2005 12:06:41 GMT -6
Star Trek Sulu: Voyages of the USS Faierie Queen ?? Not what I really had in mind Gordon.!!!!  ;D Joe. |
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Nov 8, 2005 12:20:52 GMT -6
Back in the days before pc's (early 1980's), when I was in grad school in Madison... the Forestry Dept had a PDP Minicomputer. There was a Star Trek game on it. Based on a large Matrix and shown on screen as acscii characters, each point on the matrix (sector) revealed a huge sub-matrix, on which you navigated and acted (i.e. go to sector 137,322 aim at 57, 231 etc). It was multiplayer, with anyone who happened to be on the network at the time.
If your failed in your mission, or your ship was destroyed, you got reassigned to the USS Faierie Queen, and you had to earn yourself better ships by misson success... hence the source of my previous post! Every since Sulu 'came out' Ive been flashing back to what I guess was the first computer game that I ever played.
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Post by Chicago Jake on Nov 8, 2005 13:03:05 GMT -6
I used to operate a PDP-11 in grad school in Urbana. We didn't have any games on it, but I always liked the removable hard drives. I thought they looked just like the saucer section of the Enterprise!.....Jake
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Nov 8, 2005 13:37:28 GMT -6
I used to operate a PDP-11 in grad school in Urbana. We didn't have any games on it, but I always liked the removable hard drives. I thought they looked just like the saucer section of the Enterprise!.....Jake Ours was an 11/45, we had 3 or 4 of those hard drives, each about the size of a small washing maching and the hard drive platters were what, about 24 inches across, and 4 or 5 platters in a pack, and held an ASTONISHING 10 Mb... you were REALLY a geek back then if you needed your own pack, and your prof allowed you space on one of his (and he instructed you how to mount the drive) |
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Post by New Mama on Nov 8, 2005 14:44:33 GMT -6
I used to operate a PDP-11 in grad school in Urbana. We didn't have any games on it, but I always liked the removable hard drives. I thought they looked just like the saucer section of the Enterprise!.....Jake Ours was an 11/45, we had 3 or 4 of those hard drives, each about the size of a small washing maching and the hard drive platters were what, about 24 inches across, and 4 or 5 platters in a pack, and held an ASTONISHING 10 Mb... you were REALLY a geek back then if you needed your own pack, and your prof allowed you space on one of his (and he instructed you how to mount the drive) Ooh Oh , I'm getting a slightly stimulated with that kinky kind of talk.  |
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Post by drmryder on Nov 8, 2005 15:11:54 GMT -6
Geek stuff makes me horny. Keep talking...
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Nov 8, 2005 15:54:09 GMT -6
Would you like some nice, hot SQL Injection to induce a cathartic Buffer Overflow?
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Post by Christinko on Nov 8, 2005 17:16:57 GMT -6
Pervert.
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Post by drmryder on Nov 17, 2005 9:37:59 GMT -6
Okay it took me over a week to get back to this thread.
Need more geek talk please! And BB, is that all you got for me?
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Nov 17, 2005 10:07:12 GMT -6
Beg for it.
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Nov 17, 2005 11:25:28 GMT -6
Okay it took me over a week to get back to this thread. Need more geek talk please! And BB, is that all you got for me? Let me read to you, if BB wont... URL Withheld by Request ;D |
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Post by drmryder on Nov 17, 2005 14:47:49 GMT -6
Now that's foreplay!! Got any acronyms for me? HTTP, TCIP, SCSI.... Work it baby, work it!
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Nov 17, 2005 15:27:55 GMT -6
SLAN: Secure Local Area Network
BAM: Bidirectional Associative Memory
SM: Smart Media (alternatives accepted)
FMS: File Management System (alternatives accepted)
put it all together
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Post by drmryder on Nov 17, 2005 15:41:58 GMT -6
BAM: Bidirectional Associative Memory I think I saw that in a trigger spray! |
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Nov 17, 2005 16:01:02 GMT -6
- OOPS (Object - Oriented Programming System)
- FIFO (First In, First Out)
- FORTRAN (Foreplay Transitioner)
Although I may be wrong about that last one ... |
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Post by Chicago Jake on Nov 17, 2005 16:40:00 GMT -6
LISP (Lots of Insignificant Silly Parentheses)
PCMCIA (people can't memorize computer industry acronyms)
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Post by drmryder on Nov 17, 2005 16:56:46 GMT -6
Okay... gotta go. I'm all hot and bothered.
What is funny is that I work for a computer integration/label manufacturing company and everyone all around me talks computer geek talk all day long. By the end of the day I'm just a wet mess.
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Post by Merlot Joe on Nov 17, 2005 20:37:34 GMT -6
FIFO (First In, First Out) I knew her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe. |
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Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Nov 17, 2005 21:02:30 GMT -6
What about my floppy???
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Post by Merlot Joe on Nov 17, 2005 21:47:31 GMT -6
Sounds like a personal problem ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Damn man your a Doctor, prescribe yourself some Viagra ;D ;D ;D ;D Joe. |
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Post by Ozmale on Nov 18, 2005 6:27:01 GMT -6
Just one of the things that keeps me coming back here.
We start with a question about how much the ch-ch-change in a TV shows theme sucked and end up with a viticulturist telling a medico cum lawyer to prescribe himself Viagra...
Gotta be fast on the feet.
Ozmale
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Nov 18, 2005 6:35:48 GMT -6
Okay... gotta go. I'm all hot and bothered. What is funny is that I work for a computer integration/label manufacturing company and everyone all around me talks computer geek talk all day long. By the end of the day I'm just a wet mess. Sounds like a job perk. |
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Post by drmryder on Nov 18, 2005 9:57:57 GMT -6
Yes it truly is, but then I'm married to a computer technician so I've got it real good! 365/24/7
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Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Nov 18, 2005 11:00:29 GMT -6
So he doesn't get a day off until a leap year, eh? Interesting ...
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Post by Ardbeg... innit on Nov 18, 2005 11:03:16 GMT -6
Yes it truly is, but then I'm married to a computer technician so I've got it real good! 365/24/7 Some guys have all the luck!! ;D |
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