|
|
Post by Cherbunny on Aug 8, 2005 9:25:49 GMT -6
BB, it's truly amazing how you manage to find all these tidbits of info. And the fact that you share them with all of us, makes it so special.
|
|
|
|
Post by Cherbunny on Aug 8, 2005 9:37:32 GMT -6
Georgette~ Don't buy any Bogle wine either. And stay away from Menage a Trois. I had a bottle and it was fair....nothing to write home about. Then, I went to visit the folks and did the usual wine tasting/buying. (ok, 10 cases of wine later...). One of my fav places is Madrona. Nice folks, friendly, great wines, and they know how to throw a winery party. Unfortunately, they had a problem with Sutter Home, who makes the Menage a Trois. Seems Madrona's white blend called Melange de Trois was too close for the big boys. Anyway, here's the press release where Madrona is ch-ch-changing the name and dropping the lawsuit. www.madronavineyards.com/tradeandmedia/pdfs/MadronaWithdrawsLawsuit.pdfSo, with that....fuck Sutter Home. I'll never buy a bottle from them again. |
|
|
|
Post by Merlot Joe on Aug 8, 2005 10:53:22 GMT -6
Tex, I don't know, but I will ask some people this week and see if they do. You can keep a red wine for about a week after you open it, but a white wine either finish it or dump it. Joe. Joe, If you had put anyone else's name there, I would have been offended, but I consider this a step up on the evolutionary ladder... THANKS for the boost!! ;D ;D GORDONSorry Gordon or should I say sorry Tex? ;D ;D ;D Boy did I fuck up big time. I told my wife I need to get my eyes checked, now I fucking believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Get close to 50 and everything starts to fall apart shit oh dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Joe |
|
|
|
Post by Merlot Joe on Aug 8, 2005 10:58:14 GMT -6
I don't remember all the kinds but Kendell Jackson, Turning Leaf, Yellowtail and Charles Shaw are the most recent ones. Georgette Yeap you been buying the wrong ones. Looks for these. Clos Du Bois 2003 or 2004 North Coast Chardonnay Tin Toof Chardonnay, These two are our favorites. Also here are some others, Geyser Peak, Pedroncelli, St Francis, Glen Ellen, Chateau Souverain. Stay away from KJ, Turning Leaf, and two buck Chuck Charles Shaw. Joe. |
|
|
|
Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Aug 8, 2005 11:39:14 GMT -6
And the fact that you share them with all of us, makes it so special. I share because I care, demmit! |
|
|
|
Post by Merlot Joe on Aug 8, 2005 19:23:47 GMT -6
My dad does, and it is excellent. But he doesn't sell it.......Jake Jake, A couple of questions if I may? 1. I am assuming(I should now better) your dad lives in Chicago? Where does he get the grapes? 2. What kind does he make? Assuming again ,If he is like most of the older Italians, he makes that good old home made Dago Red. I am going to make some wine with my neighbor this year. I supply the grapes he does all the work. Sounded like a hell of deal to me. Joe. |
|
|
|
Post by Merlot Joe on Aug 8, 2005 19:27:10 GMT -6
For you Zinfandel lovers out there he is one for you.
Stu Pedasso Cellars, Sonoma Beach Zinfandel.
Very smooth, nice aroma, and nice after bite.
Joe.
|
|
|
|
Post by Cherbunny on Aug 8, 2005 19:57:35 GMT -6
Ok Joe...where do we find this bottle? Any year in particular?
High end store? Costco? Safeway? Trader Joes?
Cher
|
|
|
|
Post by Merlot Joe on Aug 8, 2005 20:10:59 GMT -6
Ok Joe...where do we find this bottle? Any year in particular? High end store? Costco? Safeway? Trader Joes? Cher I don't know. It was given to me last year, two bottles actually. Drank one saved the other for the label. If I see George any time soon I will find out. May be a tasting room only item? My guess right now high end private liquor store. I just posted it for the wording, but it is good stuff. Joe. |
|
|
|
Post by Chicago Jake on Aug 8, 2005 21:16:27 GMT -6
My dad does, and it is excellent. But he doesn't sell it.......Jake Jake, A couple of questions if I may? 1. I am assuming(I should now better) your dad lives in Chicago? Where does he get the grapes? 2. What kind does he make? Assuming again ,If he is like most of the older Italians, he makes that good old home made Dago Red. I am going to make some wine with my neighbor this year. I supply the grapes he does all the work. Sounded like a hell of deal to me. Joe. Joe - My old pappy learned wine making from his old pappy. He used to live in Chicago (my grandpappy was off the boat from Italy), but now lives in the suburbs (shudder!) at a Del Webb development that I like to call "Viagra Falls". But he gets his grapes downtown "at the tracks", whatever that means. They are California grapes. He usually makes Zinfandel and Muscatel, but mostly Zin, and sometimes Ruby Cabernet. I don't pretend to know what those words mean, but that is what he calls it. I used to help him when I lived at home. We would crush grapes in a little hand-crank-based contraption, right into an upright barrel. They would sit there (no added anything, just natural yeast from the atmosphere) until they fermented, then he would drain the liquid and press the solids, into a horizontal barrel until Easter, after which he would start drinking it. When the next Fall rolled around, he would bottle what was still in the barrel, so he could use the barrel for a fresh batch. It always tasted great! Nothing was ever in those barrels or bottles that wasn't already in the grape or absorbed from the atmosphere.....Jake P.S. - It broke his heart when he and the old lady moved out to the retirement village, and he had to give up his basement wine shop. Both of his sons (me and my brudder) lived in condos in the inner city, with no basement to take over the equipment. But he managed to find a distant relative to take the stuff and use it to advantage. And he still has a lifetime supply of his old vintages to tide him over. |
|
|
|
Post by Merlot Joe on Aug 8, 2005 23:08:56 GMT -6
. But he gets his grapes downtown "at the tracks", whatever that means. They are California grapes. I have heard of some Grape Brokers that buy grapes and ship them back east or to the midwest for people to buy for home usage. A friend of our sold 20 tons like that a couple of years ago. My brother went and loaded the truck for him with one of our forklifts. Sounds like your dad use to have fun with his wine making, and he made it like the old dagos used to do out here. Unfortunately they have all passed on. They didn't have the slightest idea about what chemicals to add to wines, they let Mother Nature take care of it. Made some dam good stuff to. The winemakers of today should take a few lessons, they all think they are God's gift to the wine industry, and continue to be a pain in my ass. Joe. |
|
|
|
Post by Harrybutt on Aug 9, 2005 4:02:54 GMT -6
I think Jake really just enjoyed the feel of mushing those grapes between his toes
|
|
|
|
Post by Alice on Aug 9, 2005 6:50:25 GMT -6
Joe, each person has their own tastes. I have tried the Glen Ellen. Chardonnay is not for me. I do like pinot, sav blanc, and fume` blanc. In the reds, I like Zinfandel, cianta, (sp?) and merlot. I have tried a couple of ice wines. Those are great!!
Georgette
|
|
|
|
Post by Cherbunny on Aug 9, 2005 10:37:42 GMT -6
Joe~
Thanks for the info.
If I can't find it, I'll just have to make a trip to drink yours. In fact, I'll be there 17-23 Aug to celebrate my dad's 70th b-day.
Tell ya what...I'll even bring a 2000 Madrona Quintet to share with you and the Mrs.
Honestly, one of these days we will have to get together.
Hugs~
Cher
|
|
|
|
Post by Merlot Joe on Aug 9, 2005 12:27:02 GMT -6
Joe~ Honestly, one of these days we will have to get together. Hugs~ Cher One of these time when you come out we will have to get together. You are not far from us at all. A couple of hours. We will have to go wine tasting. Joe. |
|
|
|
Post by Exildo Wonsetler Briggs III on Aug 9, 2005 19:04:08 GMT -6
We would crush grapes in a little hand-crank-based contraption, right into an upright barrel. Go't DANG? You did that TOO? I STILL HAVE my Dad's old hand-crank-based contraption and remember (TRUE STORY!) the night my Dad took me away from Star Trek to squish grapes between my toes. It was the first and last time I did that! After my Dad passed away Christmas of '03, we found several bottles of wine he made dating to the early 1970s. Unfortunately, most had been corked with real cork and had not been stored correctly over the years.....so most bottles sucked. There was one that was genuinely OUTSTANDING! Funny thing, the "winery" was in this outhouse shack that also housed our ham radio setup. I spent hours there as a kid talking around the world but never ventured into the "winery" for a drink! I was a dumb kid!  ................Bob |
|
|
|
Post by Tex on Aug 9, 2005 19:50:35 GMT -6
I knew a lady who owned a little country store about 8 or 9 miles from here and used to make home made wine. She would give us kids a bottle now and then. She was trying to put the move on the bread delivery man and would give him a drink of the wine. One day he left there drunk and ran over a couple of mailboxes and a garden tiller with the bread truck. His wife went to the store and there was an entertaining scene. Out here in the sticks you have to make your own fun.
|
|
|
|
Post by Harrybutt on Aug 10, 2005 6:22:42 GMT -6
Homemade wine around here usually involves an old radiator
|
|
|
|
Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Aug 10, 2005 10:30:30 GMT -6
I think you're confusing that with the recipe for Possum Stew.
|
|
|
|
Post by Tex on Aug 10, 2005 22:04:31 GMT -6
I think you're confusing that with the recipe for Possum Stew. ... or armadillo (possum on the half shell) |
|
|
|
Post by Chicago Jake on Aug 10, 2005 22:09:46 GMT -6
.......remember (TRUE STORY!) the night my Dad took me away from Star Trek to squish grapes between my toes....... Wine is one thing, but Star Trek is inviolate! I would have had to beam him into the cold unforgiving vacuum of space......Jake |
|
|
|
Post by Harrybutt on Aug 10, 2005 22:36:35 GMT -6
No, actually white lightening
|
|
|
|
Post by Ozmale on Aug 15, 2005 7:52:30 GMT -6
Not the worst wine I have tasted but the worst way to taste wine...
Just returned from a business trip to China, meeting customers, doing the "product training" thing and being hosted to lunches and dinners by our honourable business 'friends'.
Served at one lunch was a very good shiraz, made in Shandong province by a joint french (boo-hiss) chinese company. Trouble was it was served in 75 ml (maybe 3 ounce?) glasses and consumed like shots...straight down in one gulp. We explained that in Australia we would not drink such an excellent wine in such a way. We drink from much larger glasses but sniff, taste and sip the wine to enjoy the flavour. Our host, only to eager to help us had the restaurant staff (his restaurant staff) bring us much larger glasses (like the large Riedel glasses if anyone knows them). He however was shocked by the concept of sipping the wine and we had to skull/shoot/swallow whole the entire glass of about 300-400 mls of wine in one go (yep only two glasses to a bottle).
What a waste of wine!!!!
Ozmale
PS Worst wine. Lone Gum Cab Sav. Whilst making it they ran out of cab sav so made it up to quantity with riesleing and added some anthrocyanine (spelling?) to improve the colour! (This was made about 10 years ago so luckily you'll never come across it)
My paint stripper tastes better than that stuff.
Best wine: Lindemans Limestone Ridge Shiraz or Pyrus Cab Sav. Haslegroves Shiraz 2002, Skillagalee Clare Riesling, My sisters 2003 and 2004 rieslings.
|
|
|
|
Post by Cherbunny on Aug 15, 2005 11:26:49 GMT -6
like the large Riedel glasses if anyone knows them A true wine snob knows about these glasses. I've got the 4 piece place settings....afterall, you've got to have the proper glass for the wine varietal. Definitely can't drink Chardonney out of the huge Syrah glasses. To prove a point, pour some wine into a regular wine glass and then some in a Riedel. Taste and compare. You'll swear that they are two different bottles of wine, not 2 different glasses. Joe....are you a wine snob too? Hugs~ Cher |
|
|
|
Post by Merlot Joe on Aug 15, 2005 13:07:01 GMT -6
Joe....are you a wine snob too? Hugs~ Cher To a certain extent yes. You must have a wine glass to drink wine. I don't care what type it is, but it must be a wine glass. And no paper cups. Joe. |
|
|
|
Post by Ardbeg... innit on Aug 15, 2005 13:28:00 GMT -6
Styrofoam maybe??  or paper cups with the little fold out handles, to you you have class?? |
|
|
|
Post by Cherbunny on Aug 15, 2005 15:33:32 GMT -6
Riedel Philosophy on the art of the wine glass. I've got the Vinum Extreme 4 pc Tasting sets and the same 4 glasses in the Wine Series. Only difference is the extremes are crystal and the wine series are not. I did pick up 8 cab glasses in the wine series off Amazon.com for $40. Can't serve company good wine in crappy glasses. Cher
|
|
|
|
Post by Chicago Jake on Aug 15, 2005 15:43:46 GMT -6
My off-the-boat eye-talian grandfather always drank his (homemade) wine out of a juice glass. And no damn pinkie in the air, either!......Jake
|
|
|
|
Post by ♥ COVID-19♥ on Aug 15, 2005 16:46:49 GMT -6
Styrofoam maybe?? or paper cups with the little fold out handles, to you you have class?? I usually just clean out a jar formerly used for jelly. Hey, at least it held a grape in some form, previously. |
|
|
|
Post by Merlot Joe on Aug 15, 2005 17:07:16 GMT -6
Styrofoam maybe?? or paper cups with the little fold out handles, You poor bastard. ;D ;D ;D Joe |
|
or paper cups with the little fold out handles, to you you have class??