Romney's Olympic Gaffe

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Aug 1, 2012 5:50:29 GMT -6 Ardbeg... innit said:

Bookmarking that post for future reference. Jack Cesarone comes out and declares a universal government run program, a more socialistic plans than Obamacare, funded by taxes worth a "good looking into"!! This is almost monumentally historic.

Someone please remind Jake that it's August 1st, not April 1st.

[New Mama]

Mitt want the Federal Government to give health care management to the States to develop, just like he did in MA. From his website:

Mitt's Plan
On his first day in office, Mitt Romney will issue an executive order that paves the way for the federal government to issue Obamacare waivers to all fifty states. He will then work with Congress to repeal the full legislation as quickly as possible.

In place of Obamacare, Mitt will pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens. The federal government’s role will be to help markets work by creating a level playing field for competition.

Restore State Leadership and Flexibility

Mitt will begin by returning states to their proper place in charge of regulating local insurance markets and caring for the poor, uninsured, and chronically ill. States will have both the incentive and the flexibility to experiment, learn from one another, and craft the approaches best suited to their own citizens.

•Block grant Medicaid and other payments to states
•Limit federal standards and requirements on both private insurance and Medicaid coverage
•Ensure flexibility to help the uninsured, including public-private partnerships, exchanges, and subsidies
•Ensure flexibility to help the chronically ill, including high-risk pools, reinsurance, and risk adjustment
•Offer innovation grants to explore non-litigation alternatives to dispute resolution
Promote Free Markets and Fair Competition

Competition drives improvements in efficiency and effectiveness, offering consumers higher quality goods and services at lower cost. It can have the same effect in the health care system, if given the chance to work.

•Cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice lawsuits
•Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools
•Prevent discrimination against individuals with pre-existing conditions who maintain continuous coverage
•Facilitate IT interoperability
Empower Consumer Choice

For markets to work, consumers must have the information and the power to make decisions about their own care. Placing the patient at the center of the process will drive quality up and cost down while ensuring that services are designed to provide what Americans actually want.

•End tax discrimination against the individual purchase of insurance
•Allow consumers to purchase insurance across state lines
•Unshackle HSAs by allowing funds to be used for insurance premiums
•Promote "co-insurance" products
•Promote alternatives to "fee for service"
•Encourage "Consumer Reports"-type ratings of alternative insurance plans

[Tex]

Mitt has made some gaffes overseas - perhaps he should have limited campaigning to the 57 states.

[Ardbeg... innit]

Aug 1, 2012 8:41:49 GMT -6 New Mama said:

Mitt want the Federal Government to give health care management to the States to develop, just like he did in MA. From his website:

True, but he LOVES the Israeli Federal Plan because ITS EFFICIENT.

Edited: I really dont consider this a Romney gaffe, he didnt make any mistake in facts. He just praised a system that he would find repugnant in the context of the US.

[Irish Stu]

Aug 1, 2012 8:45:24 GMT -6 Tex said:

Mitt has made some gaffes overseas - perhaps he should have limited campaigning to the 57 states

I think it would be a while before he shows his face in the UK again. One of the best descriptions I saw of him in the British press the other day was "that stool sample of a man..."

[Chicago Jake]

Aug 1, 2012 5:50:29 GMT -6 Ardbeg... innit said:

..... Jake you old socialist you, I knew it was in there somewhere. Even if it took a Romney candidacy to do it, I am happy that your eyes have finally been opened to some of the things I have been saying here for so many years........

You must be hitting the Laphroiag early today, Gordon. I know your reading comprehension isn't really this dismal.

[Ardbeg... innit]

... and yet...

Aug 1, 2012 0:07:12 GMT -6 Chicago Jake said:

How is that an "ooops"? He is praising a system that is more efficient than our system. That sounds like a good thing.

[Chicago Jake]

Mussolini kept the trains running on time. It's worth knowing how he did that. But that doesn't mean we should adopt his philosophies over all.

Get back to me when you sober up.

[Ardbeg... innit]

Youre the one praising Romney for praising the Israeli socialistic health system for being more efficient.

[Chicago Jake]

Okay, now you're just being obtuse. Can't you imagine a world with shades of gray in between black and white?

As usual, I'll let the audience decide.

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What I want to know is how did Harrybutt manage to hack into Jake's account?

[Ardbeg... innit]

Jake, Trying to recall the proper response to being called "obtuse" from The Shawshank Redemption. I DONT believe that it would involve serving you up to "the sisters" in the laundry room, but I could be wrong. Regardless, I stand by the written record in this thread, you have "outted" yourself. NTTAWWT, but at this point denial only gives the appearance of being more damaging than the original sin, as so often is the case.

Beeb, my theory was that he was either possessed by or was channeling Lou last night, but your theory is plausible too.

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Aug 1, 2012 5:50:29 GMT -6 Ardbeg... innit said:

Jake you old socialist you, I knew it was in there somewhere.

In the spirit of the late Gore Vidal, maybe it would be more appropriate to characterize him as a crypto-socialist. Or would crypto-anarcho-socialist be more accurate?

[Ardbeg... innit]

Beeb? Youre going corporate on us? (Although I understand the passion for the product)

[Tex]

Beeb you can't be fucking sirius.

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Aug 2, 2012 5:32:11 GMT -6 Ardbeg... innit said:

Beeb? Youre going corporate on us? (Although I understand the passion for the product)

As HORRIBLE as things were at NYSE, I am extremely delighted that this company rescued me in such short order. I'm only here about 4 months now, so I'm still in the honeymoon phase. It'll wear off eventually, I'm sure.

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Aug 2, 2012 6:34:09 GMT -6 Tex said:

Beeb you can't be fucking sirius.

Only when I accept a paycheck from them.

[New Mama]

Just saw this tidbit. Our favorite Mayor Boris Johnson gets stuck on a zip line. There's just something about a politician left hanging while pleading with citizens for a rope that makes for an Olympic Gold moment.

Mr Johnson was featuring as a “special guest” in Victoria Park, London, to ride the 1,050ft (320m) zip line, donning a hard hat and two Union flags as he attempted to sail down.

Instead, he ground steadily to a halt on the wire about 65ft (20m) from the end as the wire sagged, and was left dangling inelegantly in front of a watching crowd.

The Mayor spent around five minutes hanging comically from the drooping line wearing a hard hat, as spectators took video footage and photographs of his misfortune.

When one asked how he was feeling, he replied “very, very well thank you”, before shouting: "Get me a rope, get me a ladder" to bystanders.

“It’s very, very well organised,” he assured them. “It’s going well so far. Right.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/news/9444065/Boris-Johnson-gets-stuck-on-zip-wire-carrying-two-Union-flags.html

[Chicago Jake]

I guess they weren't quite as ready as he thought they were.

[Ardbeg... innit]

Yep, a hung up zip line having nothing to do with an athlete or the competition, huge disaster, HUGE. If only they had listened to Willard, this could have been averted

[Chicago Jake]

So "trivial" is in the eye of the beholder, eh?

[Tex]

Calling a candidate "Willard", or "Hussein" for that matter, is to start name calling instead of focusing on issues, IMHO. The candidates didn't name themselves, they are responsible for their track records. Romney has some real accomplishments in private and public life. How about Obama?

[Chicago Jake]

Thanks, Tex. I like to try to focus on REAL ISSUES rather than bullshit and distractions. Zip-lines, tax returns, and middle names are trivia. Unemployment rates and deficits are worthy of discussion.

[Ardbeg... innit]

Aug 4, 2012 23:27:46 GMT -6 Chicago Jake said:

Thanks, Tex. I like to try to focus on REAL ISSUES rather than bullshit and distractions. Zip-lines, tax returns, and middle names are trivia. Unemployment rates and deficits are worthy of discussion.

Jake, you do realize that 'Willard' is his first name. So using it is no different than using the name 'Barrack', which I have used in the past here.

Insofar as the trivial use of name, I seem to recall your frequent use of the name O'Bama in the past. Seems that things are different when it involves 'your guy'.

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[Ardbeg... innit]

Well everything is wrapped up nice and tidy. I am sure glad that Romney (observing the conservative political correctness of NOT using his first name) swooped in at the last second and saved another Olympic disaster. Im sure all of GB is thankful.

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BTW, speaking of "Romney Gaffes", did anyone notice the thunderous roar when the allusion to the good job of security at the games was mentioned in the closing ceremonies? I did.

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Aug 12, 2012 20:58:17 GMT -6 Ardbeg... innit said:

Insofar as the trivial use of name, I seem to recall your frequent use of the name O'Bama in the past. Seems that things are different when it involves 'your guy'.

I've noticed over the past number of years that if he can't play by *his* rules, then he doesn't want to play at all. Rather poor sportsmanship revealing an even more flawed character.